(12-05-2018, 09:37 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(12-04-2018, 08:38 PM)JaguarKick Wrote: He's not what he was billed to be from the start--the best QB in a generation.  He just failed to score on a defense that's been torn to shreds by tons of teams this season.  He makes a ton of mistakes and throws a lot of INTs.  Despite this, people drool over him constantly.

He's good, but he's not as good as people seem to think he is.

Here we go again.

Luck took a 1 win team to 11 wins the very next season. He has had the absolute worst Oline pretty much his entire career. TY Hilton and..... Who? He's made Ebron into a pro bowl TE. He's also done this with a consistently bad defense and no running game. He had 1 bad game against the Jags and that's the example you bring up? What about the first time he played the Jags? Was he shut out then or did he torch them? Right before his injury, he threw for almost 4,800 yards and 40 TDs.

Luck is a top 10 QB. Brees, Brady, Rodgers, Ben..... I'd take Luck over almost any other QB in this league. Including Mahomes and Goff.

I honestly don't get the dismissiveness toward Luck.  

I bet if you polled 100 Jag fans and ask them if they'd take Andrew Luck right now, it would be a landslide for Luck.  His injury history aside, Luck has been one of the to QBs in the league since entering the NFL.  You're absolutely right.  He's done pretty amazing things despite having had to deal with no defense for most of his career, little running game, and an offensive line that has only recently proven to be effective.  

I'd take a QB who can succeed despite challenges surrounding him.  We've been living with one who needs everything around him to be humming along at or near perfection.  As soon as there's a little bit of adversity, he reverts to pretty much every bad habit that has limited his success for 4 years.  We're due for a guy who can rise above the challenges.

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