Quote:Not mad, we all have different opinions. Personally, I think Bortles is the exact opposite of Gabbert.  Bortles actually slides in the pocket and always has his head and eyes up and downfield.  He is much better when the pocket breaks down.  Gabbert tucks the ball, head goes down and runs for his life when the pressure comes.

 

Is the consensus that Murray has a "gun"?  Just asking.  I thought he was thought to have a average/below average "NFL" arm?

Like you said different opinions. As for Murray, he has an above average arm, but what makes it a "gun" is the out of pocket arm strength. IMO what makes a "gun" is what your throws can be like like when you are not set in the pocket. For Example:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fzKqmeUtZo

 

As for Bortles, here is what we have:

 

 

Season Team GP Rating Att Comp Pct Yds TD INT Att Yds TD

2011       UCF 9 153.9 110 75 67.8 958 6 3 21 4 1

2012       UCF 14 144.5 399 251 62.9 3,059 25 7 87 285 8

2013       UCF 13 163.4 382 259 67.8 3,581 25 9 87 272 6  

<b>Totals</b>             36 153.9 891 585 66.2 7,598 56 19 195 561 15

 

 

Impressive...but, what scares me is the similarity of somone else:

 

Year School Conf Class [BLEEP] G Cmp Att Pct Yds Y/A AY/A TD Int Rate

*2008 Missouri Big 12   QB 5 5 13 38.5 43 3.3 3.3 0 0 66.2

*2009 Missouri Big 12   QB 13 262 445 58.9 3593 8.1 8.2 24 9 140.5

*2010 Missouri Big 12   QB 13 301 475 63.4 3186 6.7 6.5 16 9 127.0

Career Missouri                       568 933 60.9 6822 7.3 7.3 40 18 132.6

 

Those are Blaine Gabbert's college stats. His sophmore year is almost identitical to Bortles' Sophmore and Junior seasons. I do not trust QB's that do not throw 30 TD's, It has an effect on the next level. True, I also volley for McCarron, but I think that is based more upon the system that was implemented, not the player. Just a really bad feeling with Bortles. *Cheers*

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