(12-18-2018, 02:49 PM)Flagler Jagsfan Wrote:

(12-17-2018, 04:41 PM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: I believe we wasted that pick by wasting Hyde. He is a way better back than what we have seen. It all goes back to the coaching staff not using players correctly. That's the only reason Im on the fire Marrone wagon.

I'm with you on this. Hyde has been a good back on both the 49ers and the Browns. This coaching staff has a way of squandering talent and not using them to their potential. To me, it's blatantly obvious "they" are in over their head. And by "they" , I don't think any of them all the way up to Coughlin deserve a free pass. There are firings, personnel changes, and staff changes that have not taken place, and should be a direct reflection of upper level management that is not making these changes happen. They scooped up Hyde out of panic move and gave up our 5th round pick, and have barely used him. Meanwhile, other teams are looking dominant with undrafted 3rd and 4th string rookies.

(12-19-2018, 12:39 AM)Firesky Wrote:

(12-18-2018, 10:32 AM)Mikey Wrote: I'm still not sure where you're going with this.  What does the success of another team's RB have to do with the guy we acquired?  All it tells me is the Browns knew Chubb was good, and that they could justify taking one RB out of their talent pool to acquire future picks. Did you account for the changes in coaching in Cleveland when you looked at that performance?

Are you saying that we could have acquired Chubb? Hyde was holding him back?

I agree we've been failing when it comes to amassing talent at every offensive position, not just RB. I just don't know how Chubb's stats indicate that the trade was good or bad.

This, chubb is good, baker and the offense improved, and .. they fired hue jackson which had more to do with it than anything.

People also want to act like Carlos Hydes 4 years on the niners (who werent very good talentwise on the whole) where he averaged 4.0 ypc each year didnt happen. And that stint includes two 900 yard campaigns in one of which he averaged 4.6 a clip. Hes not the problem.

Sooo Hyde goes from performing well on the niners and fournette goes from having 1k and 10 tds in 13 games to what we see now. Maybeee just maybeee having 4 of 5 oline starters and no semblance of a passing game is bogging down the running game and Hyde and Fournette are still talented.

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