(12-21-2018, 02:48 PM)JAGFAN88 Wrote:

(12-21-2018, 02:36 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: Lower tier to who? You? You're the guy who still wants Blake on this team so forgive me if I'm not accepting of your QB evaluating skills.

2017 was apparently a weak QB class with Watson and Mahomes. Now what? You pumped we have Fournette instead of those 2 "weak qb class" guys?

im not saying its weak most the experts out there are. actually you dont know how good or bad a QB is until he has played and even then it would depend on the coach and team that pick him. Goff was terrible his own head coach called him a bust his rookiee year. Yet he got a new coach and is a Franchise QB. MAhomes or Watson on this team would be mediocer at best and proably would not be playing cause the coaches here need a drop back QB who can hand off not a mobile QB who runs and throws. BTW that is what BLake is mobile QB that runs and throws not a drop back QB they tried to make him. So if we dont replace these coaches dont expect to have a watson or mahomes type here.

You keep talking about this not being a dropback quarterback.  That is such a lame excuse.  Give me a NFL quarterback that is not a dropback quarterback first.  

Man, I stuck with Bortles a lot longer than most on this board.  But you're just making excuses for him if you can't actually use your eyes and see that he just is not a very good quarterback.  I think his ceiling (and I absolutely hate that word) is adequate.  I don't think he'll ever even be good at this point.  Even if you are a run first team, your quarterback has to carry you ever once in a while.  He just looks bad...looks uncomfortable...looks like he forces everything, and after five years in the league I don't see how he is going to miraculously overcome all of his deficiencies.  It's almost painful to watch sometimes.  I legitimately feel sorry for the guy.

---