(12-31-2018, 10:43 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote:

(12-31-2018, 10:29 AM)Firesky Wrote: Priority 1 is getting out of "cap hell". Priority 2 is finding new coordinators for Offense AND Defense. After that it depends on a lot of things as one decision/factor could influence others, but overall:


1. Keep Fournette, re-sign Corey Grant (if the price is right), re-sign Josh Wells (if the price is right). Keep Bortles (until a better QB option is secured; if that's not possible play Blake for a year then cut him after 2019 for no dead money)

2. let Cann Walk, let Yeldon walk, let Moncrief walk. Try and restructure Dareus.

3. Cut Malik Jackson, cut Parnell, cut Hyde (if Grant resigns; although I kinda like Hyde :/ ).

4. Draft Dwayne Haskins. If he goes earlier than our pick ... Draft Deionte Thompson & cut Tashaun Gipson (Starting Safeties are now Harrison & Thompson; who actually played alongside each other at Alabama and already have chemistry). Draft a RG or RT in the first 3 rounds, and draft a TE early as well.

5. Trade Telvin Smith (he's a big contract/cap hit ... and he's a liability, he's a SS playing WLB at 215 pounds. he seems to always be in coverage getting burned over the middle, starts plays flat footed, misses/overshoots his gap assignments, and whiffs tackles (see the Watson TD week 17 and all of Derrick Henry's runs) Myles Jack is a STUD and is probably better off at WLB if we draft a thumping MLB. I know that shipping off Telvin is unlikely and I sincerely hope he has a bounceback year in 2019 but I just don't see it, he played far too poorly to justify his salary this past season. Our LB's are the reason our defense isn't clicking and we will continue to struggle defensively until both OLB spots are tangibly upgraded; how many more times must we be gashed by a mobile QB before it's addressed yet all i keep hearing is about how much speed we have at LB. Laughable.

6. If the haul is good trade Bouye too. Don't get this twisted I think he's very good and played through injury, but Meeks and Herndon look like good young pieces and Hayden has been a bright spot at nickel and can play outside in a pinch, $15 million is a hefty price tag; if we can't get any bites on decent draft picks in return then keep him, don't ship off talent needlessly.

7. Re-sign Jalen Ramsey, and re-sign Ngakoue ... basically use all the cap space we just created to retain those 2 players, (and re-sign Myles Jack for the amount you save in trading away Telvin; but  that's a distant third as far as priority goes) Jalen and Yannick are integral to our defense's success.


We need to shed salary, acquire draft picks and fill holes, the stupid spending on things like Moncrief & Bortles last year REALLY set us back, while I know a lot of us want to reload and contend in 2019, there are too many enigmas and dominoes that need to fall to assure that's viable. I say try and take care of the future and let the future take care of the present. Burning all of our cap space to "win now" hurt us and looking at last year ... we didn't even win let alone "win now". Also on a final note, Shad should've cleaned house.

1. Honestly, u cant keep Fournette. U could keep Bortles as an option. With good play calling, he can be good.
2. I would keep Cann. I agree with everything else.
3. Try to restructure Malik. Do not cut Hyde.
4. STAY FAR AWAY FROM HASKINS. Trust me. You're gonna need more mobility behind this line. Don't cut Gipson. Why would you? Agree w/ the rest.
5. Trade Telvin? Over 1 bad year? Where he lead in tackles?
6. lol
7. Agreed

From your post, you basically want to rebuild. I don't think the Jags are thinking that way.

1 - Why can't we keep Fournette? Bortles is the placeholder, if we can't get our QB of choice in the draft and theres no one better in FA, keep him he played well early in the season.

2 - It depends on what the contract looks like, I think he's been below average and I'd rather play a rookie to get similar production. If he's cheap i'm ok with Cann coming back and competing for his spot.

3 - Hyde is tied to Fournette, if they get rid of one they won't get rid of the other; I like Hyde and he came into a tough situation not knowing the playbook, bad Oline etc. I would love to bring back Malik & Dareus but at their current cap hit's thats just not realistic. Malik's interview when he signed the contract was that he wants "all of it, all $90 million" I think he'd rather test the market than restructure, but hey we can at least try and see if he's amicable to a restructure, ditto for Dareus.

4 - Sorry if this wasn't clear. If they CAN'T get Haskins (we can disagree on him; personally i'd sit him a year rather than get him killed and David Carr syndromed behind this porous Oline) then you draft Deionte Thompson (he's the best safety to come out in some time, a bigger Earl Thomas who played alongside Harrison and has chemistry) if we DON'T draft Thompson and draft Devin White the LB from LSU etc. then you KEEP Gipson, you only let go of Gipson if his replacement has been secured.

5 - So you want to move on from LF27 after "one bad year" but not Telvin who has like triple the cap hit?!?!?! Telvin reminds me of Kirk Morrison; makes a ton of tackles ... just way off the line of scrimmage. Kirk Morrison led the team in tackles here too, and we moved on after the season. I hope i'm wrong but it seems we're paying Telvin an awful lot to underproduce, I think he's been exposed and figured out, if we trade him we get something back of value, if he underperforms again (which i think he will) then he's untradable and we're stuck in a bad contract at $10 million per year.

6 - Same deal as Gipson, you don't just get rid of him for no reason. If there's a good return (ex: late first round pick etc.) then yea pull the trigger, we shed a huge cap hit and gain a premium draft spot. It'd be a tough pill to swallow as I really like him as a player but shedding salary and getting a good draft pick is as big a win-win as I can think of.

7 - We agree, those 2 are the straws that stir the drink on Defense, we can't let them leave Duval.


I think we're not capable of a "reload" in that we're not just a few players away from contending. but we're not in need of a full on rebuild. We're in a weird spot drafting at #7 and sitting in QB purgatory with a bloated cap. It's a tricky situation and there's no "right way" or book of written instructions on how to do this.

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