(01-11-2019, 10:04 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 10:01 AM)Jay Carter 904 Wrote: I rarely agree with you.


But man, I've said it so many times, downtown is trash.

Other cities, their attractions are downtown. In Jacksonville, our attractions are in the suburbs. You have to go to St John's Town Center or River City or Jax beach to have a decent time. I do think the city needs to do something about downtown. Its the black eye of our city as of right now.

Now moving it to St. Johns county is a bit much. there is so much land in Duval can be tore down and a stadium can be built. I wish the city would just let this man do what he wants to do. Khan has repeatedly tried to make this city an attraction and they keep denying him.

Not making this religious because it's not about religion. A Church isn't necessarily about religion.

FBC. They hold back downtown. They have since the beginning of Jacksonville.

If people only knew how many potential "night life" businesses the FBC has destroyed from getting a start in downtown Jacksonville, they would be astounded.

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(01-11-2019, 10:06 AM)Bullseye Wrote:

(01-11-2019, 09:43 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: If I am Shad Khan and he is serious about staying in Jacksonville, I build a new stadium that isn't downtown. COJ has had nearly a quarter of a century to improve downtown and the conditions around the stadium and has refused to do so.

He may be smart to do it in St. Johns County.

Then what happens to the rest of his planned downtown development?

Isn't part of the allure of his Shipyards/Lot J development based upon building around the stadium?

My question is why hasn't the cleanup been agreed to?

The Shipyards has been talked about forever. Its a pipe dream and has been the carrot on the stick to keep people excited about what downtown "could be". 

Even if he built a shiny new shipyard, it is still a massive hassle getting downtown. Look no further than the monorail downtown as a statue to the ineptitude of our citys leadership over the past few decades.

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