(01-11-2019, 01:31 PM)Pdiddy Wrote: My 2 cents, I flew from Montana for the patriots game. I been to plenty of sporting events in big cities. I heard Jacksonville wasn’t as good of an experience but man was is disappointing. Other cities, endless sports stores, restaurants, bars, businesses and things to do ALL DAY within walking distance. I brought my brother and girlfriend, thinking they would have fun spending the day doing things around the stadium, and there was NOTHING besides the one bar on the corner. Ended up just waiting at the gate for hours. I’ll just go to Denver and our other west coast games next year. With my limited expectations, the pregame aspect of the trip was embarrassing and I don’t understand how a Super Bowl was ever hosted there. So weird to me that a stadium that attracts large populations and potential business has nothing developed around it. Didn’t explore the downtown area much. Wouldn’t say excessively dirty but it was just dead/nonexistent

You can't expect that kind of sports bar and retail store scene to sustain itself only doing business 10 days a year.  You'll find that the scene in Tampa is not much better for this reason. And you especially can't sustain that when it's surrounded by abandoned buildings with open doors and windows.   
That said, when the Jacksonville fair is going on it's pretty nice.
Atlanta's stadium scene is doing a little better now.  The soccer team helps.  
It's a really delicate balance of urban planning, because of the parking demands too.  It helps if most of your fans are OK with taking the bus or train like in NY.
The Pats own their stadium and built a nice seven day a week retail area there. The Dolphins own theirs and are contemplating something similar.  The new LA stadium will be in a high dollar retail area. The Redskins own their stadium, but have not pursued this.
I'd hope Shad considers something like this ready to be open sometime around 2030, but I also hope he doesn't expect the City of Jacksonville to take out more bonds for it.

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