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House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power
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(01-14-2019, 10:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: People say, but California, New York, and Illinois are so populous, they would control the election. They control the election now! If a democrat wins California by 51% to 49%, the democrat collects ALL the electoral votes for that state. Is it fair for Republican votes to not count at all in that circumstance? Why would a republican even bother voting in California or New York? As of now, their votes don't count! Texas is the same way. Why would a democrat even bother to vote in Texas? No, I wouldn't take that position, because I support the election of the President by the Sovereign States through the Electoral College and not by direct democratic vote. Frankly we shouldn't even tally a national popular vote because it's irrelevant to the election outcome, all that matters is the votes within the States themselves as the Founders intended. (01-13-2019, 11:36 PM)Last42min Wrote: Leave it to you to use "math" while missing the point. OF COURSE those three states aren't going to win the election outright. Who would argue that? It's that those 3 states can CARRY an election more consistently than the current system. Think about the battleground states that mattered last election: Arizona, Colorado, Georgia, Florida, Iowa, Maine, Michigan, Minnesota, Nevada, New Hampshire, North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Virginia and Wisconsin. Is that not a better representative of America than NY and Cali? Of course it is. I can't speak for other posters, but I don't think it's a stretch to reason that when people say NY and Cali, they aren't being literal. They are representatives of the NE metropolises and the entire West Coast. I appreciate you taking the time for this argument, but I fear you are arguing with someone diametrically opposed to the concept of Republicanism. “An empty vessel makes the loudest sound, so they that have the least wit are the greatest babblers.”. - Plato
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