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House Dems move to eliminate Electoral College, limit presidential pardon power

(This post was last modified: 01-15-2019, 05:16 PM by mikesez.)

(01-15-2019, 05:00 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:
(01-14-2019, 11:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: Yes, I am to your left.  You are on the other side of the foul line in right field, though. All of us are to your left.

  The Constitution should never have been changed with the 17th Amendment.  That's not the way our system of government is supposed to work.  The States should have more power than the federal government.

Why do you think the 17th amendment happened?

(01-15-2019, 05:07 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote:
(01-15-2019, 01:18 PM)jradMITEX Wrote: Joined the discussion late, but this is purely hypothetical because nothing will change, but I think it would be a much better system to proportionally assign the electoral votes in each state instead of the all or nothing.  This way everyone's voice is heard and state's don't lose their individual power.  Like I said this is hypothetical, a real discussion with actual ramifications that could actually change and IMHO change the course of our politics is redistricting.  If districts were drawn without partisan advantage in mind you would get a lot more centrist lawmakers and therefore more willingness to compromise and actually address issues.   One last point, the tyranny of the majority concept is not about elections but about laws and the purpose of the judicial branch.  The judicial branch guards against the tyranny of the majority, such that a law can't be passed unfairly targeting the minority.  The judicial branch specifically protects the tyranny of the majority by ensuring the rights of the minority are upheld.

Nothing prevents any State from proportional voting, they can assign their electors by congressional district winner for instance.

Why would any swing state ever do it?  Their local TV stations would lose a lot of money and they would be sure to encourage viewers to call their state rep and prevent it.

And no one trusts congressional district boundaries when partisans are drawing them. Notice that both states that do this have exactly two congressional districts. You can't gerrymander two. You can gerrymander three or more.
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