(01-24-2019, 09:06 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:

(01-24-2019, 07:11 AM)The Real Marty Wrote: Nancy Pelosi is 78 years old.  She's in an absolutely safe district.  She undoubtedly sees this as her chance to go down in history as the person most responsible (other than Trump himself) for bringing down Trump and ensuring that he does not get re-elected.  She is not going to back down and allow him to claim any level of success in fulfilling his number one campaign promise.  

Meanwhile, the shutdown is starting to have an effect on the economy.  It's 2019, and the election is in 2020.   If the economy even starts to tank, Trump will not get re-elected.   

There's no way she's backing down.

I'd suggest these federal employees begin looking for new jobs then.

If they get new jobs, at least they'll get paid. They won't have to work for free. What kind of crap is that?

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(01-24-2019, 12:53 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:

(01-24-2019, 12:48 AM)TJBender Wrote: Trump refuses to come off of his demand for a physical wall. Pelosi won't support that. Seems to me there isn't much "negotiation in good faith" to do until someone inevitably blinks.

Appropriations going to the floor is the sort of ridiculous complaint I'd expect from a lefty nutjob trying to impeach Trump. No one is going to remove Nancy Pelosi, and if you think you'd get someone less liberal to fill her seat, you're nuts. In fact, you'd get Steny Hoyer as Speaker, which would be even more fun for those of us who want to see the children stop throwing sand at each other and end the damn shutdown. And not being present on the floor...have you seen Marco Rubio's record?

What you're putting out here are partisan whines, not legitimate reasons to remove a Speaker from office. I'm no fan of Pelosi, but if you think that some kind of campaign to remove her--even if it did work--would get you someone willing to play ball with Trump, you must not have met the group of people that would be in line to replace her.

A lot of Democrats are starting to "blink". It is only a matter of time before the pressure gets to great for Pelosi. While poll numbers (which I don't really believe) point to most of the blame being on Trump for the shutdown, look for those to shift as the weeks go on.

This take simply makes no sense at all. I have no loyalty to either party, as I'm a registered Independent who hates Trump and Pelosi. This blame lays squarely on the President though. The man even stated multiple times, that he would "own" this shutdown and that he would "shutdown the government if he didn't get funding for the wall." How can you blame this on anyone other than him? I swear, he could tell some of you followers that the sky was purple and the grass was plaid and you'd believe him.

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