(01-23-2019, 08:03 PM)HandsomeRob86 Wrote:

(01-23-2019, 07:36 PM)mikesez Wrote: You are offering him $800 for one or two days work.
Assuming he worked alone, that's way above minimum wage.
The kind of people who are helped by the minimum wage are much more disadvantaged than him.
I wouldn't say they're all "stupid", not at all. some of them are mentally slow or they are on the borderline of being mentally slow. But that's just one way that somebody could end up being very disadvantaged in life.

I weirdly sort of agree with mikesez. There are people who are completely unable to negotiate a wage at all. Especially at the inexperienced end of the labor pool. But are these people actually able to work tho? I think thats a better question. The military has a cut off of I believe 83 IQ to be taken. Thats low, but there is still something like 10% of people below it. 

I think most of these people probably aren't working in the first place like J.W. but there is no way I think they could negiotiate a salary in the first place. I don't think they have a right to a certain level of income. But then again if you raise minimum wage you always contract the workforce at first, so maybe its better to just not do it.

Odd that you include the military in your low IQ labor pool when IQ is not utilized as an enlistment or induction qualification or de qualification. There is some kind of stigma left over from your grandpa’s military. In general, the military population is better educated than the population it serves and it isn’t even close. But, the military is a microcosm of society and does have it’s share of people who can’t walk and chew gum at the same time. That is, until they get weeded out!

On topic...trying to make minimum wage a living wage is ridiculous. Why should folks be rewarded for not attempting to make themselves more relevant in the workplace? IE. A highschool diploma, Continuing education, a degree, or a certificate program. Minimum wage should be a low “ minimum” until you put forth effort to make yourself more desirable to the company you work for.

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