(01-24-2019, 09:51 AM)B2hibry Wrote:

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(01-24-2019, 09:41 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: If they get new jobs, at least they'll get paid. They won't have to work for free. What kind of crap is that?

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This take simply makes no sense at all. I have no loyalty to either party, as I'm a registered Independent who hates Trump and Pelosi. This blame lays squarely on the President though. The man even stated multiple times, that he would "own" this shutdown and that he would "shutdown the government if he didn't get funding for the wall." How can you blame this on anyone other than him? I swear, he could tell some of you followers that the sky was purple and the grass was plaid and you'd believe him.

Please explain your blame theory because at this juncture it makes zero sense regardless of what words came out of either parties mouths. It’s actions that matter and that is where you may find the clue you need.

The Seante never actually passed a bill funding the government.  McConnell brought a bill that Trump liked to the floor but it failed.  McConnell's stance has been he won't bring a bill unless the President supports that bill.  If you want to call someone useless or derelict in their duty, I think that's your guy right there, McConnell.  Pelosi and Ryan before her were both able to pass spending bills.
The founders would have just let the President be the only person to bring bills to the Senate if they wanted the Senate to behave the way McConnell's running it now.
Then again, if Trump was making realistic demands in the first place, maybe it would be OK for McConnell to follow him this way, like a dog on a leash

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