(01-25-2019, 01:00 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(01-24-2019, 10:40 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Really should research before posting.

#1- Shutdown is happening because of partisan idiocy perpetuated by Pelosi.
#2- Wall funding has nothing to do with campaign promise. A wall has been in place for some time and requires updates and aditional sections for some areas of the nine sectors. It has received funding in every FY since inception. DHS just completed a few segment last month with money that both Pelosi and Schumer voted for, along with nearly every other Dem. All of this is public record and viewable online. 
#3- There was a budget agreed upon by both Chambers prior to shutdown that included wall funding. Pelosi delayed via amendment until after she was formalized as Speaker. Now it sits in limbo or what is called Differences. Mind you, she and Schumer previously offered over $20B. Once again, matter of public record and viewable online.
#4- Trump said he would “own the shutdown” not that he was “going to shutdown the government”. Mind you, Congress is responsible for legislation and funding. POTUS signs when mutual, recorded text is presented. Hasn’t happened. Bill can also become law without POTUS signature. Blaming Trump is the ignorant easy way out.

FACT

So what am I missing?

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#1 Is just simply untrue. It is the opinion of someone who is completely biased. 
#2 Adding to an existing structure, is building a new wall. If there was nothing there and he wants to put something there, it's new. 
#3 Pelosi and Schumer aren't the ones demanding miles and miles of additional structure to be added to the existing structure. They were willing to give additional funds for border security, but it wasn't exactly what Trump wanted, so he said he was going to shutdown the government and he did. Please don't make me defend Pelosi or Schumer ever again. It leaves a very bad taste in my mouth. I can't stand them, but in this case, they are correct. 
#4 Now we're getting into semantics. Owning the shutdown and shutting down the government are the same things. He was taking responsibility for the shutdown and he was proud of it. Here is the actual video. Check out 7:06 into the conversation and then again at 9:48. It's very clear. 

This is not me being partisan, just using common sense, knowledge of how the government works, and deductive reasoning. Go ahead and baaaahhh! The media has you so blinded. Step away and read all of the House and Senate bills/votes since mid December. Go on the DHS and Customs & Border Protection websites. All of the reports, news, and “way forward” are in black and white. Here you will see what DHS and CBP are and have been requesting even before Trump made it to office. You may also learn why the “wall” term keeps getting used. I don’t care if he said mexico will pay for it and I don’t care if during his first attempt he placades them by stating he’d own the shutdown. Only a fool takes those words at face value. I care about action and whether you like him or not, Trump is the only one attempting to negotiate. Oddly enough, he included what the Dems have asked for when they first offered $25B! What has Mrs. Speaker put on the table? What did Rep or Americans get in return...an ongoing shutdown! The Dems can’t even pass a complete CR to fund all agencies until February so folks can get paid. 

Look, I’m no longer going to argue over your perception of things. I just ask that you go dig deeper yourself and you’ll realize how twisted up the situation has gotten in an effort to keep Trump looking like the bad guy. I’ll sit back and wait for Pelosi to put an offer on the table...any offer at this point.

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