(01-26-2019, 05:02 PM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 04:44 PM)jradMITEX Wrote: Not sure what you are getting at but this isnt a talking point this is what happened. In late December Pence and others had worked out a deal for a CR to last until the beginning February it passed the Senate.  https://www.federaltimes.com/management/...-february/

It had overwhelming support in the senate but included no wall funding.  Rush Limbaugh and Coulter panned the deal.  Trump unfollowed Coulter then backed out of the deal.  This led the country down the path of a ridiculous shutdown.  He is over and over again in his presidency chose to placate the most extreme elements of his base than try to form a consensus, he is so scared of losing their support. Every Pol with a brain told him how this would end but Trump being Trump, you know his gut tells him more than anybody’s brain ever could had to touch the stove and get burned.  Point is that he doesn’t seem to understand that the wall is unpopular amongst the whole electorate, everyone has heard the arguments for it, and because he has very little credibility it’s highly unlikely it will change with his persuasion.

THis is a wrap, he’s not gonna win this argument, most minds are made up he has a choice between two bowls of booboo, no wall and he can claim he increased the funding for border security or claim the fixes to existing walls are his wall or he can offer up DACA, TPS and then some and completely bewilder a chunk or his base, if he’s smart he choose the later and attempt to tack back to the middle while getting something he can call his wall.  But Trump being Trump and Stephen Miller still being in the WH I doubt it.  Also he can get kicked  by the Mule twice and attempt to shut down the government again. FYI I love my country like I love my kids, doesn’t change whenthey do something that upsets me.  And let me leave you with this nugget.  

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/...f84e364431

Your problem is that you look at border security as an "argument".