(01-27-2019, 03:12 PM)rollerjag Wrote:

(01-26-2019, 11:16 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote: Yeah... like a wall.

Yes, there are places where a physical barrier makes sense. But Trump is the one stressing it must be 5+ billion for a wall. Not a mixture of methods, not bolstering what we have, he is demanding a wall. Efforts to depict this as Pelosi being inflexible gloss over this fact. He promised a wall and set a figure over which he would not negotiate.

You’re just flat wrong. 5.7B is another installment on mixed method border security that includes...nevermind. Go read more. There are other outlets besides CNN and Vice. Start at the sources themselves. Getting ridiculous.

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(01-27-2019, 03:45 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(01-27-2019, 09:52 AM)StroudCrowd1 Wrote: I watched Trump from the border actually talking to border agents about if a wall will work. Every one of them said yes.

I always compare the "ladder on the border wall" left argument to a person dying in an auto accident while wearing a seatbelt then people saying seat belts don't work..

Qz.com.......lol, wow.

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TJH, respond with a yes or no to this question. Nothing else.

If walls don't work, should we remove all existing barrier fence at the southern border?

No. Walls do work in urban areas where someone is literally a 20-foot walk across the street from being a shadow. Ever been to Otay Mesa, CA? It's right on the border at the southern end of San Diego, and it's a massive warehouse and industrial center. If someone gets across there, they're gone. That's why the wall is so heavily fortified there, and in that situation it's absolutely doing what it needs to do to be a good investment. That's why every metropolitan area along the border has some form of physical barrier, and I'm in favor of using federal dollars to upgrade what's already in place.

What doesn't make sense is putting a wall up in the desert, where someone is a 10-mile hike from the nearest main road, when FLIR cameras, drones with thermal imaging and a heavier Border Patrol presence with better equipment for the terrain (including horses, I am dead serious about horses--cowboys used them for a reason) would be every bit as effective. Probably more so if the funds going to that wall would otherwise go towards those things.

Reading the DHS and Custom and Border Protection reports, as well as their Strategic Plan would clarify quite a bit for you and others.

https://www.cbp.gov/

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