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Trump tells Pelosi he plans to proceed with State of the Union next week


(01-29-2019, 08:21 PM)jradMITEX Wrote:
(01-29-2019, 06:27 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Wouldn’t those declining numbers in recently constructed wall sectors be justification that barriers are working? Seems to prove a point. Also the fact a large percentage of drugs are being intercepted at ports of entry shows barrier funnel works as expected. Yet there are still known vulnerabilities and porous sectors. You could have garnered this from many of the DHS and CBP reports previously posted. I guess we can just go with the status quo and keep America reactionary huh? Not a problem until it is, right? Nevermind upkeep/improvement of current barriers supported by the last two Dem Presidents and by CBP’s Strategic Plan. Not sure why you are still stating the “wall” is the sole issue. You are also falsely connecting $5B+ to just the cost of the wall. Once again, claiming this is just a Trump demand/project. Keep ignoring any of the three budget sources given to you earlier to see entire breakdown of the nearly $6B request.

FYI, overstays were 42% which leaves nearly 60% illegal entry. Illegal immigration issues go beyond death and destruction. That is a grossly simplistic point of few and one the left uses as a dismissive tactic. There is human trafficking, child rape, gang flow, abuse of services, and a huge financial toll. Illegal is illegal no matter the color of lipstick. Ignorance is bliss I suppose. 

https://www.heritage.org/immigration/rep...s-taxpayer

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2019/01/07/myth...est-aliens

No one is saying that there aren't serious problems, what's evident is in no way to the above stats point to an emergency, and not a worsening situation.   Interdiction at the points of entry does not prove the funnel method is working, its much easier to hide in plain sight than to attempt to traverse open terrain, and given the fact that such a minute percentage of packages are checked at POE, drug smugglers will most likely choose to move product in these ways.  If Trump proposed increases in border security measures with only repairs and improvements to existing walls there would be little problem garnering public support for the measure.  But he wants to build a "Big beautiful wall", sea to shining sea.   If he had any strategy or tact he would take this deal and continue to push for a wall, but his base won't let that slide and he loses face if he doesn't get that big beautiful wall of vanity he promised repeatedly.  Or he can offer up DACA/TPS permanent protections and citizenship and get his wall, but I assume the right would scream AMNESTY! at the top of their lungs.  Trump fails because he can't appeal to enough people and he has been terrible at moving minds to his side.  You have to build consensus to be a capable president, Trump is terrible at this, he can only play well in front of the home crowd.   Did you see his address to America?, it was all of 8 minutes, a pretty half hearted effort, and just rehashed old themes, he is the same guy that got off the escalator and call illegal Mexican immigrants mostly rapist and murderers.  He is sticking to this strategy and this only works for republicans, its not moving independents.  You can't have a caustic personality and presence and then expect people to be willing to work with you, you can't continuously run afoul of the truth and expect people to believe anything you say.

Still stuck on vanity project huh? 

A Presidency should be run like homecoming court, got it. We’ll have to make sure he passes out lollipops and buttons at the SOTU.
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RE: Trump tells Pelosi he plans to proceed with State of the Union next week - by B2hibry - 01-29-2019, 08:45 PM



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