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What is the middle ground between single payer and private insurance?

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(This post was last modified: 02-03-2019, 10:19 AM by B2hibry.)

(02-03-2019, 09:16 AM)mikesez Wrote:
(02-02-2019, 11:16 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Go back read you must (yoda). 

I’m not sure what direction you are trying to go or what twist makes anything you said correct. FYI, none of those disability ratings came from anything I wrote. Please enlighten me where disability pay was being discussed within the topic of healthcare? 

And [BLEEP] on your VA is a thank you statement! It was established to provide a level of benefits and care oversight that goes back to the Continental Congress days. The VHA has been the independent goverment body tasked with veteran universal healthcare as contracted per enlistment or commission. And yes, it has in fact been studied as a model for national healthcare.

Read if you have time: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2089116/

Sure.  The article you link to discusses that the VA could be a model for national health care.
Not that it was intended to be so.
Not that it must be so.
Just that it could be.

And, oh by the way, the article gives a lot of compliments to the VA. The article notes that the VA is outperforming private hospitals in many measurable outcomes.

the first few people who brought up the VA on this thread did so derisively. Sounds like the VA's actual performance is a mixed bag at worst.
Nobody on here but YOU alluded to the fact that it is THE model. It was cited by me and others as the lone example of what universal care for all in America would/could be like. Canadas is similar.

Well yes, it is one unbiased medical opinion written in 2007. Even though it doesn’t go through every detail, it mirrors what has been said here. Some good, some bad, inconsistencies, not always cheaper. Somewhere along the line you’ll need to do your own research instead of talking out your [BLEEP] and presenting as fact. The VA has had some real issues and it is correcting those issues but at increased costs and heavy congressional pressure. The short term answer has been to just throw money at it but that won’t work long term. (Another major conflict may put it over the top). Tried it with that failure ACA as well. Can you image doing that with Medicare? ...oh wait they are and that budget has doubled in last ten years. Outpacing defense. Psshh, people complain about debt/deficit now! Sure, let’s give it to everyone and exacerbate all the know issues. 

Those people were discussing the inconsistency of disability ratings per service connected disabilities. Not level of healthcare. Although those ratings can figure in to costs out of pocket. Nothing like the goverment putting value on your mind and body like a used car salesman! But they are doing us a solid and only as a thank you. As you see, the VA can’t even be consistent with disability ratings.
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RE: What is the middle ground between single payer and private insurance? - by B2hibry - 02-03-2019, 10:18 AM



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