(02-09-2019, 08:36 AM)jj82284 Wrote:

(02-09-2019, 08:13 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: You can say whatever you want, but your argument is just a bunch of nonsense to me. I don't believe a life is truly a life, until you take a breath outside of the womb. 

You said it yourself. Between 50-60 million people would have been born without abortions. That's 50-60 million unwanted kids. Where are they gonna go? Are you willing to adopt some of them? I guarantee most of them would have gone into the foster system, which is already overcrowded. You say abortion is taking a life, I say it's preventing a life from happening. A hard life in which that child would've been born to careless, irresponsible parents who didn't want it in the first place and would've probably either mistreated it or given it away to be raised by the state. I'll say it again. People are wreckless and irresponsible. There will always be unwanted pregnancies. Without abortions, what are you gonna do with all of these unwanted children? You seem vehemently opposed to abortion and want it banned. What do you propose we do with all of the unwanted kids who would now be brought to term? You can't just oppose something without providing some type of viable solution.

1.) I understand biology can be a bit tricky.  If you would like a refresher course on the difference between the process of meosis where we form the gamete cells and mitotic cell division/fission post fertilization then I'm game, but science demonstrates that life begins at conception.  

2.) Again, what's you government sponsored program for men with a fetish or predisposition to become sexually excited by sadistic non-consensual acts against women?  If you aren't going to pay for a government issued concubine to play his sadistic games then you can't possibly consider rape a crime right?  What about pedophilia?  If you aren't going to pretend to be a prepubescent child and service their sexual needs then obviously you have to allow child molestation right?  The very nature of the social contract obligates us all to base normative behavior without the incentive of a cookie or government program to ease the pain or conducting ourselves as law abiding citizens.  

3.) Yes, Foster homes can suck.  Yes, being born to mean parents sucks.  Any idea that its better to have a scalpel to the back of the head and have your brains sucked out is better than being stuck in a crappy foster home with no cable is "just a bunch of nonsense"

4.) As a nation we mitigate irresponsibility and recklessness through a common commitment to personal responsibility and the sanctity of the individual.  We don't subsidize it through mass genocide just because you not every foster home or adoptive parent has unlimited wi-fi!

1. Disagree. It all depends on what your interpretation of "life" is. What you and I refer to as "life", may be very different. 

2. What are you even talking about? Your going off on a wild tangent, trying to relate entirely different subjects that have nothing at all, to do with one another. Please stay on point. 

3. That's your opinion. If I knew I was going to be born into a life where I was unwanted and abused, I'd much rather choose not to be born at all. 

4. Again, I ask you this, because you dodged the question. If we ban abortions, what do we do with all the unwanted children that will now be born into to bad families that didn't want them and into already overcrowded foster homes? In order to effectively oppose something, you need to have a solution to the problem. You're not giving any viable solutions. All you're doing is giving opinions on why you oppose abortions. What does unlimited wi-fi have to do with anything? You sound like a crazy person.

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