(02-09-2019, 10:58 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(02-09-2019, 08:51 AM)mikesez Wrote: I think you make some valid but ethically questionable points here.
We can't know for sure what a world were most of those kids never got aborted looks like. Perhaps there never would have been any demand for illegal immigrant labor. perhaps a lot of those kids would have ended up in construction and lawn care in meatpacking for instance. It's impossible to know and to just assume that the world would be worse off is magical thinking in my opinion.
I'll grant you that a kid who is not wanted, but has to be kept, is more likely to be raised by a single mother and more likely to have a lot of difficulties early in life.
but I think that type of problem looks a lot different today than it looked in 1973.
We have so many more options for birth control now, and they have so many fewer side effects. Most of the options prevent an egg from even being ovulated in the first place.
I know that a lot of the pro-life people in this country are not with me on this, but I fully support making at least some forms of birth control free, or subsidized, and available over-the-counter.

I know we cannot know for sure what a world with all these new people would look like, but you have to admit, the foster care system is already overcrowded and it would be even more so with all these addition kids. How many more is anyone's guess. While a lot of those children could end up in menial, blue collar jobs often filled by illegals, I don't think that it would make much of a difference. They would still be American citizens, subject to the "going rate" for such jobs. The reason many illegals are hired, is because they are willing to work for pay below the "going rate" on those jobs, in order to stay anonymous. That would not be the case for the new Americans who would be born if abortion were made illegal. They would still expect to be paid the "going rate" for any job they took. 

See, now we're making some headway. You are offering some realistic solutions here. I can definitely get on board with offering free birth control. That could drastically reduce the amount of unwanted pregnancies. I would also add that getting such birth control should not require a parents permission and should be given to a person of any age. Maybe than, we wouldn't see so many teen pregnancies as well.

What you old farts don't get is that you've aborted half of the generation that was going to support you in your dotage. Without 60 million additional tax payers your already overtaxed health care and Social Security Ponzi schemes are going to collapse in your lifetime instead of after you've passed on to your just reward.

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