(02-08-2019, 08:01 PM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote:

(02-08-2019, 03:56 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote: I'm basing that on the fact the mother doesn't want the baby anyway. How good of a life is that baby going to get from a mother that wanted to kill it?

Without abortion, you would see...... 

1. More child murders and abuse situations at the hands of parents who didn't want them. 

2. More kids in foster care (many in horrible or abusive situations.)

3. More crime due to the fact that children grew up feeling unwanted and it messed with their heads, leading to drug addiction, alcoholism or mental illness.

4. More people in the United States, leading to overcrowding and more demand for "things" which would drive up cost. 

5. More deaths due to illegal and unsafe "back alley abortions."

I don't agree with abortion as a means of birth control, but I see it as a necessary evil. People are irresponsible. That's just a fact. No amount of legislation is ever gonna make people voluntarily use birth control every time. Instead of wasting money on pitches to tell people to be abstinent, we need to deal with reality. There will always be tons of unwanted pregnancies and forcing people to carry unwanted babies to term, when they don't want them, only creates more problems. Many of those babies will lead "hellish" lives if they are brought to term. There are some really horrible people in this world. I view abortion as the lesser of two evils.

While there is some truth to what you say I think you are underestimating individuals ability to be responsible. When I used to work in a psych unit it was amazing how much self control even the craziest of people would get when surround by a bunch of big techs. People are irresponsible in large part because they issolated from the consequences of thier actions.

So I think all those things might go up at first, I think they would quickly reverse course once people realised the change was for real.

The better argument for keeping abortion IMO is for babies with congentital defects incompatable with life, rape cases, and of course, fatal risk to mother if completing pregnancy. Abortion should not be used as a form of birth control.

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