(02-09-2019, 10:44 AM)TheO-LineMatters Wrote: (02-09-2019, 08:36 AM)jj82284 Wrote: 1.) I understand biology can be a bit tricky. If you would like a refresher course on the difference between the process of meosis where we form the gamete cells and mitotic cell division/fission post fertilization then I'm game, but science demonstrates that life begins at conception.
2.) Again, what's you government sponsored program for men with a fetish or predisposition to become sexually excited by sadistic non-consensual acts against women? If you aren't going to pay for a government issued concubine to play his sadistic games then you can't possibly consider rape a crime right? What about pedophilia? If you aren't going to pretend to be a prepubescent child and service their sexual needs then obviously you have to allow child molestation right? The very nature of the social contract obligates us all to base normative behavior without the incentive of a cookie or government program to ease the pain or conducting ourselves as law abiding citizens.
3.) Yes, Foster homes can suck. Yes, being born to mean parents sucks. Any idea that its better to have a scalpel to the back of the head and have your brains sucked out is better than being stuck in a crappy foster home with no cable is "just a bunch of nonsense"
4.) As a nation we mitigate irresponsibility and recklessness through a common commitment to personal responsibility and the sanctity of the individual. We don't subsidize it through mass genocide just because you not every foster home or adoptive parent has unlimited wi-fi!
1. Disagree. It all depends on what your interpretation of "life" is. What you and I refer to as "life", may be very different.
2. What are you even talking about? Your going off on a wild tangent, trying to relate entirely different subjects that have nothing at all, to do with one another. Please stay on point.
3. That's your opinion. If I knew I was going to be born into a life where I was unwanted and abused, I'd much rather choose not to be born at all.
4. Again, I ask you this, because you dodged the question. If we ban abortions, what do we do with all the unwanted children that will now be born into to bad families that didn't want them and into already overcrowded foster homes? In order to effectively oppose something, you need to have a solution to the problem. You're not giving any viable solutions. All you're doing is giving opinions on why you oppose abortions. What does unlimited wi-fi have to do with anything? You sound like a crazy person.
I don't care about your interpretation. I'll stick with biological definitions.
I'm illustrating the utter absurdity of your argument. To say that in order to find behavior criminal that we have to subsidize an alternative is absurd! Take care of yourself and your offspring. If u need help grow up and ask don't just kill children.
An easy thing to say when it's not your head on the block.
I didn't dodge it, I systematically dismantled the very premise. But to your point, in a brick wall each individual brick and apportion of mortar has the capacity to support its own weight. Likewise, human beings have the agency and potential to add value to the lives of others and thusvsupport themselves.