(02-15-2019, 12:51 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(02-15-2019, 11:57 AM)Kane Wrote: But I digress...
Illegal immigration has already "cost" taxpayers 5 times the amount Trumps wanted for border wall funding. Dems want to play partisan politics and that crap goes both ways in D.C.
I don't like it, but Trump should do what he needs to get this done.
Personally I think he should just declare the emergency and not sign that stupid bill that has excessive spending in it.
1100 pages I think it was or some crazy crap? I'd say no to that much reading every time.

I'm not sure if any POTUS has ever declared a national emergency because he couldn't get Congress to cooperate with his agenda... but I do know executive orders and actions have been used and overused by every sitting POTUS since I can remember.
364 by Clinton
291 by W
276 by Barry

Since 1976 POTUS' have declared 59 states of emergency not related to weather events and disasters.

Many of which have to do with FOREIGN affairs.
Yeah..... real good use of presidential power.

going back to George Washington, the President has had more leeway to act unilaterally in foreign affairs than in most other areas.

uhhh OK?
What about Somalia is a national emergency for us?
hint: its not. 
It's just more nonsense brought to you by American politics.

Here's the first national emergency brought up by Woodrow Wilson

"I have found that there exists a national emergency arising from the insufficiency of maritime tonnage to carry the products of the farms, forests, mines and manufacturing industries of the United States, to their consumers abroad and within the United States"

Whereas we have Obama's first national emergency declaration for:
Blocking Property of Certain Persons Contributing to the Conflict in Somalia  – Intended to help combat Somali pirates.
Good thing we're declaring national emergencies for something that literally doesn't affect us

But hey... Trump has already done something similar twice... Nicaragua and Myanmar.... with his other national emergency order being for sanctions on any country interfering with elections.

All in all most of the national emergencies used outside of weather and disasters are stupid executive orders that are signed so that the POTUS doesn't have to get congressional bills and approvals. Most of which I would deem an overuse or abuse of power.

But that's the system we live in currently.

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