(04-13-2019, 01:32 PM)Bullseye Wrote:

(04-13-2019, 10:21 AM)Caldrac Wrote: You really trust this front office to get the QB position right? I don't. You show me one successful QB this franchise has ever taken at any point in the 1st RD and we probably wouldn't be having this conversation right now. They're not taking Haskins with the 7th overall pick. It's just not happening. Not after what they've done with Foles and with how they handled Bortles' situation cap wise (they chose to eat the cap hit this year to avoid blurring any lines here about whose the QB moving forward).

Drafting Haskins 7th overall would start a [BLEEP] storm and circus the moment he throws an INT. Especially when we have a lot of issues and needs to address on offense. We need help in pass and run protection. We need help on the outside. We certainly need help in the backfield. Referencing Aaron Rodgers, who rode the pine behind Brett Favre, Tom Brady, who, thanks to an injury saw the field early and may have never been who we've grown to see, and then Mahomes, who was guaranteed to start in 2018 with Alex Smith woefully failing to get a play-off team over the hump is not good enough to justify Haskins there.

Rodgers sat for three long years behind Favre. And those guys you also cited WERE NOT top 10 overall selections with the exception of Mahomes, which, again, he was a starter after just one season. And we knew that was coming with the obvious moves the Chiefs made to get him. 30 also is no longer "30" in today's soft era of football. Foles could probably play another 5+ years if needed.

They have to spend that 7th overall pick on either improving his time in the pocket or by adding a piece on the outside to target. Or, they go defense or trade down. Haskins? No. No thanks. We need instant impact on this team while we have what's left of this defense intact. Next year's QB class is looking a lot more promising any way.

So because the team has missed on QBs before, they should never address the position in the present or future?  Since the Chiefs missed on Todd Blackledge, they shouldn't have taken Mahomes?  Welp, since the Chargers missed on Ryan Leaf, they should have ignored Drew Brees or Phillip Rivers?  You mean to tell me the Colts' history of missing at QB, which includes Art Schlichter, John Elway, and Jeff George should have precluded them from drafting Peyton Manning?  


Your second paragraph-at least the start of it- illustrates why I listed Haskins second.  The resulting controversy surrounding the pick would be overbearing and tiresome until he proved to be worth the pick.  But the opportunity to develop a franchise QB slowly is justification for Haskins.  To me the main reason it isn't justification is if you don't think Haskins has the tools period. 

I do understand the argument for immediate impact for this team.  This team still has a pretty good defense capable of some really good things.  With a still young veteran QB and a few more pieces around him, we can go far with good health.  If we went with more immediate impact players, I  certainly wouldn't complain if we got the picks right.  But I  also believe a properly developed Haskins could give this team the long term stability at QB and other positions.

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(04-13-2019, 01:31 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Some always fall for the early hype by the media every year like Tebow was.

https://twitter.com/mlombardiNFL/status/...96384?s=19

FIFY.