(04-15-2019, 01:16 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(04-15-2019, 01:04 PM)FBT Wrote: I apoligize for throwing a wrench in this little progressive love fest, but the reality is that if Trump single-handedly came up with a real solution to any problem, be it immigration reform, ending wars in the middle east, curing cancer, or whatever, it wouldn't have made it through a republican or democrat congress because he proposed it.  That's just a fact.  He's proven this time and again by giving democrats almost everything they want, only to see them turn tail and run in negotiations.  Same thing with our RINO friends in the GOP who apparently have it tattooed on their backsides that they are #NeverTrump till death.  

You can sit here and say "Oh, they had a deal!" all you want.  The only people who made that claim were democrats and spineless RINOs.  Any time they would make that claim, the White House was quick to debunk it because the president wasn't going to completely bow to the democrats and agree to nonsense like the first "deal" reportedly made where the democrats and RINOs crafted an immigration reform deal that had no money allocated for the wall.  That was never going to happen regardless of what someone like Laura Ingraham said.  He did show more flexibility and willingness to work with democrats on a solution than they did in return.

This little twitter fight over the weekend exposed those who have been most vocal about sanctuary cities and open borders by forcing them to say they wouldn't accept all the illegals Trump was suggesting they dump on these cities.  It was a classic troll that worked better than even the WH probably expected.  When you've got open border advocates like the Mayor of Oakland complaining, you're getting all the confirmation you need that sanctuary cities are a joke.  When I saw Trump's tweets on this last week, and the subsequent response from the left, it was "mission accomplished" for Trump.  They scrambled right into panic mode and crafted their responses, not realizing they'd been trolled.  Some still don't realize it.

1) Hypothetical scenario that never happened and never will
2) If someone makes a claim we don't like, put them in a category like "Democrat" or "rino" that says we can ignore them.  Much easier than dealing with claims on their merits.
3) If the lack of wall money was the real problem, then Trump should have first apologized for saying Mexico would pay for it, then he should have promised to sign the bill once a certain amount of wall money is added.

Never argue with idiots. They drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.