(05-05-2019, 10:49 AM)PF* Wrote: Wow, the Telvin Smith "situation" has been so manufactured and blown up, IMO. Is there even a situation?
I think getting a 2nd rounder for him is too optimistic- if that happened, I would light a candle. A 5th is optimistic, too, maybe a conditional 7th would be more in line given that salary dump.

But why trade him? What's the impetus?

On Campbell, an extension would be foolish at his age. I like 02's argument but not enough to agree with it. I see a parallel here to the Patriots' handling of Logan Mankins. There was a solid player with no signs of decline and they traded him, in 2014 in the middle of a 6 year contract, to TB for a lousy TE and a 4th.

He went on to a Pro Bowl year with TB in 2015, retired in 2016. The Pats turned the 4th rounder into DE Trey Flowers which, I agree, was only coincidental that he turned into a star but it underscores the point: better to ditch them a year too early than a year too late.

(05-05-2019, 12:30 PM)NH3 Wrote:

(05-03-2019, 03:03 PM)Jags02 Wrote: Forget about his age and cap hit. The guy can play.

You're right about it being better to cut a player a year early than a year late, but age isn't the only determining factor. When a player in near the end of his rope, there are telltale signs in the form of declining skills. For instance, we cut Jimmy Smith too late, and you could tell over his final years that he was dropping way too many passes. How many times did we have to hear the announcers say "that's a rare drop by Jimmy Smith" before it wasn't so rare anymore? Another example is how long the Packers stuck with Favre even though you could see his INTs skyrocketing, although Favre was so great he still played with two more teams. The point is, you can see the declining skills. With Poz you could see his declining speed in coverage. With Calais Campbell, I don't even know that he's reached his peak. His best years have been with us, and I see no sign of decline. 

J-Smooth's play didn't decline because he got older/slower. It declined because of his drug habbit at the time. The only reason that the Packers jettisoned Favre's was because Aaron pitched a fit w/respect to Favre keeping him on the bench for four years. Poz NEVER had coverage skills to begin/w and he stepped aside to make room for Miles. Poz still, (In my opinion) had a couple good years left in him. Especially in the Run stopping game. Campbell too have a couple of good years left in the tank. I do agree to allow a player to walk prior to him not being able to run at his previous performances though.

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