(07-11-2019, 07:34 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(07-11-2019, 04:31 PM)USCG_JAG Wrote: Anyone on here care to enlighten a former Coastie on why the hell defunding and/or abolishing the DHS is a good idea? Anyone have an idea of the strategic Snafu that would cause? Where would the Coast Guard fall? Under DOT again?

1. No one was asking for a DHS before 9/11. It's the ultimate knee-jerk of a President who had to make it look like he was doing lots of things.
2. It's a money sink with minimal returns. DOJ upholds the law. HHS works on humanitarian issues. DHS...oversees the Thousands Standing Around and covers for the NSA?

Things worked fine when the USCG flipped between DOT/military. Convince me otherwise.

Things didn’t work fine. Hence the culmination of events leading up to 9/11.The sharing of information or lack there of created a large void in national security that got exposed. It’s a different world that requires different measures and a DHS alignment with additional transportation security makes since.

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(07-11-2019, 03:55 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(07-11-2019, 01:32 PM)B2hibry Wrote: Stop. There were never legitimate calls to abolish the DHS. It was a defunding tactic to derail Obama's immigration executive action. It was never about defunding ALL of DHS or getting rid of it.

What you just wrote there is called "the benefit of the doubt."
They definitely tried to de-fund DHS.
You excuse it as a tactic.  You say, their motive was something else, something good.
Maybe it was.
But now you owe AOC the same benefit of the doubt.
"Oh but she's different," you say.
In the subjective world of your feelings, sure, but out here in objective reality, no one knows anyone else's motives or intentions for sure.
Give that benefit of the doubt to all of them or none of them.

Like you, AOC is a blow hard. Show me what I typed is wrong. Not interested in your extracurricular bloviating.

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