(07-11-2019, 07:34 PM)TJBender Wrote:

(07-11-2019, 04:31 PM)USCG_JAG Wrote: Anyone on here care to enlighten a former Coastie on why the hell defunding and/or abolishing the DHS is a good idea? Anyone have an idea of the strategic Snafu that would cause? Where would the Coast Guard fall? Under DOT again?

1. No one was asking for a DHS before 9/11. It's the ultimate knee-jerk of a President who had to make it look like he was doing lots of things.

*No one knew we needed DHS. A massive terrorist attack against our country that COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED changed that. Knee jerk? Possibly. It was absolutely necessary though, and DHS is still relevant.

2. It's a money sink with minimal returns. DOJ upholds the law. HHS works on humanitarian issues. DHS...oversees the Thousands Standing Around and covers for the NSA?

*This is just ignorance. So I stood around for ten years of my life doing nothing? Right.....
How about you educate yourself before making yourself look stupid? It’s not hard. Simply Google DHS and look at the Mission Statement. 

Things worked fine when the USCG flipped between DOT/military. Convince me otherwise.

* Ok.... so prior to 9/11 sure, DOT it is. Problem is that with the structuring with DHS, the Coast Guard job expanded in scope.

1)Search and Rescue 
2) Aids to Navigation
3) Migrant Interdiction 
4) Drug Interdiction 

This was expanded after 9/11

5) PWCS patrols (port, waterways, Coast, and shoreline)
6) Shear numbers of ship inspections of international ships.

The U.S. Coast Guard cannot move to DOD or Military on a permanent basis, there are United States Codes that prevent this.
The Coast Guard cannot board foreign flagged vessels under DOD, this would make it an act of war. 

(07-12-2019, 04:53 AM)USCG_JAG Wrote:

(07-11-2019, 07:34 PM)TJBender Wrote: 1. No one was asking for a DHS before 9/11. It's the ultimate knee-jerk of a President who had to make it look like he was doing lots of things.

2. It's a money sink with minimal returns. DOJ upholds the law. HHS works on humanitarian issues. DHS...oversees the Thousands Standing Around and covers for the NSA?

Things worked fine when the USCG flipped between DOT/military. Convince me otherwise.

(07-12-2019, 04:53 AM)USCG_JAG Wrote:

(07-11-2019, 07:34 PM)TJBender Wrote: 1. No one was asking for a DHS before 9/11. It's the ultimate knee-jerk of a President who had to make it look like he was doing lots of things.

*No one knew we needed DHS. A massive terrorist attack against our country that COULD HAVE BEEN PREVENTED changed that. Knee jerk? Possibly. It was absolutely necessary though, and DHS is still relevant.

2. It's a money sink with minimal returns. DOJ upholds the law. HHS works on humanitarian issues. DHS...oversees the Thousands Standing Around and covers for the NSA?

*This is just ignorance. So I stood around for ten years of my life doing nothing? Right.....
How about you educate yourself before making yourself look stupid? It’s not hard. Simply Google DHS and look at the Mission Statement. 

Things worked fine when the USCG flipped between DOT/military. Convince me otherwise.

* Ok.... so prior to 9/11 sure, DOT it is. Problem is that with the structuring with DHS, the Coast Guard job expanded in scope.

1)Search and Rescue 
2) Aids to Navigation
3) Migrant Interdiction 
4) Drug Interdiction 

This was expanded after 9/11

5) PWCS patrols (port, waterways, Coast, and shoreline)
6) Shear numbers of ship inspections of international ships.

The U.S. Coast Guard cannot move to DOD or Military on a permanent basis, there are United States Codes that prevent this.
The Coast Guard cannot board foreign flagged vessels under DOD, this would make it an act of war.