(07-22-2019, 07:11 AM)Last42min Wrote: I'm not exactly sure what you are hoping to achieve with that point. Yes, there were blacks that had slaves, but the institution as a whole was decisively racist. Is there a point that Bullseye made that you're trying to counter? Maybe I missed it.

Follow along the whole thread, and you'll see why certain points are being made. Some have come on here and decided to push one way versus the other; it's important that all sides of history are remembered, just not the convenient parts. In fact, conveniently forgetting or twisting the past have overwhelmingly aligned many blacks with the Dem party. We're seeing important parts being erased to this day and some parts being swept under.

Perhaps my response could really be applied to this little tid bit from you, "It's silly to pretend that because some blacks were slave owners that blacks as a whole were supportive of the Confederacy." It's silly to pretend they didn't. It was a vital part of the economy in the south and what was familiar. It influenced the North and movements West. I think too many times folks think slavery mirrored scenes from Django Unchained at all times. What it comes down to is if we identify or give credit to certain groups of blacks of the period, then a certain truth has to be admitted that squashes the very foundation used even today to gain or hold onto the black vote.

The main point is stopping the lumping all whites and all blacks into a box for your mental convenience. There was good and bad to be shared by all. It was history, and as raw as it was, it was normal for the period and what has influenced the new rights and wrongs of today. Time to stop looking for parts of the past to blame for lack of movement forward. What really appears disgustingly hypocritical is how generations of blacks continue to overwhelmingly vote Democrat on the same lame platforms and promises and yet nobody questions the lack of inaction. The party that smiles to your face and talks [BLEEP] behind your back. The party that started and supported and still supports institutional racism since the Great Society.

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