(09-16-2019, 12:42 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(09-16-2019, 12:00 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: Do you think part of Ramseys frustration at Marrone was Ramsey thinking Marrone should have challenged because he told him to. Like having his back?

I get we have a system but when a senior player tells you it hit the ground, for some HC that's enough.

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You shouldn't throw a challenge flag just because one player says you should throw it.  People see what they want to see.  Jalen wanted that to be an incompletion; his testimony is biased.  That's not a comment on Jalen's personality or trustworthiness, just saying he's human.  Think about it, if we should be sure it was a drop just because Jalen says so, why not have Jalen play referee and cornerback?  
That said, Maybe Marrone could have called a time out and peeked at the replay if Houston was trying to quick-snap the next play.  But it would have been more foolish to outsource his decisions to Jalen Ramsey.  And it was really immature of Ramsey to keep fuming about it after the decision was made.

I agree with this. Marrone and staff have a protocol in place for challenges and it rightfully doesn't include challenging whatever a player tells them to. 
The call could have gone either way had they challenged it. The tip of the ball contacted the ground as Hopkins rolled over but he had secured it and it didn't move in his hands. The refs could easily have said "not enough evidence to overturn." 

ALSO:

I think another reason why Ramsey was so mad was that in that series Wash called a couple of zone plays that took Ramsey out of press man coverage.  So he was already ticked and the "incompletion" put him over the edge. Still should have contained his temper though.
 
 Sidenote to this^ :
Wash did call mixed coverages yesterday that had the secondary in zone while Ramsey was manning up on Hopkins. Just for those that seem to think it's always one or the other. We seemed to have a lot of that misunderstanding after the chiefs game around here.

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