(10-17-2019, 08:44 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:

(10-16-2019, 05:49 PM)mikesez Wrote: I don't think the native American thing is a big deal.
I grew up with kids who looked just as white as me but claimed to have some native American ancestry. It was a way to make yourself sound interesting. And I'm sure when Elizabeth Warren was young growing up in Oklahoma, it was an even more popular thing to talk about. Was it a dumb thing to talk about? sure. But every candidate has put out messages that make them seem silly and out of touch.
Especially Trump.

I would give any Democratic candidate a better than 50% chance of beating Trump, regardless of if they pick Biden or Warren. Now if they pick one of the fringe, one-note candidates like Tom steyer or Andrew Yang, they have no chance. But they're not going to pick one of those guys. They are going to pick somebody who is better known, and they will probably win.

Nah, I don't see it.

Middle America hates the democrats right now and everything they're doing. My staunchest liberal friends have all but given up on Trump losing - because they see the hateful environment both sides have allowed to exist.

I live in rural Ohio (you can't get any more middle America than that.) People here are decisively hardcore Republicans and they have been ardent Trump supporters, but the tide is beginning to shift here. The tariffs have left farmers here in a bad way and my friends who were rigid Trump supporters are really starting to turn on him.

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