(10-17-2019, 01:20 PM)Rico Wrote:

(10-17-2019, 01:12 PM)Bullseye Wrote: So if we don't know the details, how do we know which of the two didn't tango?

It certainly looks like you are making an assumption because you're upset that they got rid of a malcontent.

It seemed as if there was very little negotiation, regardless of whose 'side' you are on.

I have made no such assumption, and my point in this portion of the thread has nothing to do with the Ramsey trade.  I was pushing for the team to sign Ngakoue before Ramsey made a peep about being traded.

Go back over the thread.

Someone made the assertion that Ramsey could have gotten the deal he wanted if he acted with professionalism.

In response, I asked about Nagakoue's deal, because he has been a professional since he's been here, and under the rationale of the person who made the assertion referenced above,  Ngakoue should already have his new deal.

Almost in unison, your side said "it takes two to tango,"" which is an odd statement to make if you believe both sides negotiated in good faith.

So the first assumption made was on your side of this, namely that one of the parties did not negotiate in good faith, as opposed to the very real possibility that both sides negotiated in good faith and simply have yet to reach a deal. 

So who didn't act in good faith?  Who didn't want to tango?

Considering that everyone on your side of the debate has defended the front office in all of these situations, it's quite reasonable to think you guys are defending the front office on this point.  But perhaps I am amiss here, so let's get clarification.

When your side types "it takes two to tango," in response to a question as to why Ngakoue has not gotten a new deal despite being a professional his entire time here, who did not tango here?  Which party is not negotiating in good taith?

If you believe the Jaguars did not negotiate in good faith with Ngakoue, (either alone or in conjunction with Ngakoue) why do you assail my point here?  Why definitively assert Ngakoue (or Ramsey) acting like a professional would have netted either player a new contract if you believe the Jaguars did not negotiate in good faith with an individual most believe has acted professionally?

If you believe Ngakoue did not act in good faith, what is the basis for this belief?  Why would a person who has been a professional his entire career suddenly act in contrast to that standard of behavior or ethics now?  What do you have to support your assertion?

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