(10-23-2019, 10:52 AM)TJBender Wrote:

(10-23-2019, 09:59 AM)Jags32250 Wrote: So should we just ignore facts to fit your narrative?

5th round picks since Caldwell's arrival:
2013 - Denard Robinson (stuck for a few years, never really developed)
2014 - Telvin Smith (good pick)
2014 - Chris Smith (ok for a few years, traded to CIN for a 2018 seven)
2015 - Rashad Greene (stuck for a few years, never really developed)
2016 - None, pick traded to move up for Myles Jack
2017 - Blair Brown (meh special teamer, cut after two years)
2018 - None, traded for Carlos Hyde (waste)
2019 - Ryquell Armstead (TBD)

So of that list, no, there really weren't any busts. Robinson at least hung around for the duration of his rookie contract and showed some promise as a runner for a while there. Telvin was a great pick, regardless of his sorta-kinda retirement. Chris Smith didn't really do much, but in a further testament to Caldwell's abilities as a used-player salesman, he was able to return some value. Greene stuck around as a reserve, but he was still pretty bad throughout his tenure here. Brown, meh, nothing special and cut after a couple of years. The trade for Hyde was a total waste based upon the Jags' history of getting at least a couple of years out of their fives. Armstead has shown promise, and Dobbs is a TBD.

So yeah, what a bunch of us have been saying all along stands. If the Jags just dump Dobbs as soon as Foles is back, it's a wasted pick, but there are far worse uses of a pick than grabbing a QB who showed enough promise to be a fourth-round pick and possible heir apparent to Big Ben two years ago. If he works out or eventually returns another late pick in a trade, I'd consider that a good trade for solid insurance.

Oh you're just using OUR 5th rounders though.
League wide it is probably way worse. 
And he was picking superstars and starters from the 5th.

160 5th round picks every year, I'm willing to bet 80 don't make it more than 3 seasons.
and another 25-40 are just dudes, special teamers, practice squad guys.
and less than 10% go on to become Kittle, Hill, or Robert Mathis

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