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Turkey Invades Syria


(10-23-2019, 10:04 AM)The Real Marty Wrote:
(10-23-2019, 09:47 AM)flsprtsgod Wrote: It worked fine. We aren't the World's Police Department, it isn't our fault that they want to kill each other the minute we aren't willing to stop it and we are under no obligation to do so.

You don't think we have at least a moral obligation, to our allies in the fight against ISIS, to at least give them a little warning before we walk away and tell their enemies to go ahead and attack?  We should just let innocent people die because "we are under no obligation?"  When all we had to do was nothing?  Just stay where we were?  How about at least telling them, "in a couple of months we are going to be leaving.  Watch out for the Turks."  Or should we just up and walk out all of a sudden, when our allies, who lost 10,000 soldiers in the fight against ISIS so we didn't have to, are facing attack from their enemies, elimination of all their hopes and dreams, shelling of their cities, killing of their women and children?  We just walk out because the dictator of Turkey asked Trump to get our soldiers out of the way so he could attack our allies?  Do you think there is any value to having credibility and the trust of other countries and people around the world?

1. Did we have an agreement with the Kurds? I haven't seen any discussion of a formal agreement from anyone.

2. We didn't have a significant force remaining in Syria. It was not enough to stop the Turks from taking the land they took had we stayed. Maybe the presence of Americans there would have kept Turkey from moving in, but maybe not. Turkey is a NATO ally. It's not like we can just go to war with them. What is our responsibility if a NATO ally says they are going to move into an area? I don't think we can just say we're not budging and will retaliate if you don't stand down. Is there a clause in the NATO pact that deals with this situation?

3. "10,000 soldiers ... so we didn't have to"? The Kurds were one of the targets of ISIS. Had the US not been involved, the Kurds would have lost far more than 10,000 soldiers, not to mention women and children. The US fight against ISIS was to their benefit more so than to our benefit.



                                                                          

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Turkey Invades Syria - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-09-2019, 11:34 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TrivialPursuit - 10-09-2019, 11:40 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-09-2019, 12:32 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Drifter - 10-09-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-09-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Jagwired - 10-09-2019, 01:42 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-09-2019, 01:53 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-09-2019, 02:42 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-13-2019, 09:41 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TrivialPursuit - 10-09-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-09-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-09-2019, 12:35 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-09-2019, 01:04 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-09-2019, 01:06 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-09-2019, 01:52 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Caldrac - 10-09-2019, 04:22 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-09-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-13-2019, 09:30 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-13-2019, 10:18 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TheO-LineMatters - 10-09-2019, 01:32 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-09-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TrivialPursuit - 10-09-2019, 03:43 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-09-2019, 03:58 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by B2hibry - 10-09-2019, 04:28 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-09-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Caldrac - 10-09-2019, 04:47 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-13-2019, 10:05 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-13-2019, 11:31 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-13-2019, 04:39 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-14-2019, 02:15 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-14-2019, 02:32 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-14-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by rollerjag - 10-15-2019, 11:33 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Kane - 10-15-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-15-2019, 11:55 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-14-2019, 02:54 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by enigma - 10-14-2019, 03:08 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-14-2019, 04:45 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-14-2019, 09:15 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-15-2019, 08:12 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-14-2019, 05:40 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by enigma - 10-14-2019, 05:45 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-14-2019, 06:17 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-17-2019, 02:50 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-18-2019, 08:39 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Byron LeftTown - 10-17-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-17-2019, 03:40 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-17-2019, 04:49 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Jagwired - 10-18-2019, 09:03 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-18-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Jagwired - 10-18-2019, 09:42 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-18-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by HURRICANE!!! - 10-22-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-22-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-18-2019, 10:49 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-18-2019, 12:41 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TrivialPursuit - 10-18-2019, 12:45 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-18-2019, 03:33 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-18-2019, 04:04 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Jags02 - 10-18-2019, 05:43 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by KodiakJag - 10-18-2019, 01:19 PM
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RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 09:35 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 09:47 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-23-2019, 09:53 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 11:23 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-23-2019, 11:24 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by The Real Marty - 10-23-2019, 10:04 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 11:26 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-23-2019, 11:27 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 11:46 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-23-2019, 11:54 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 12:43 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Gabe - 10-23-2019, 01:00 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 01:15 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 12:11 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 06:10 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by MalabarJag - 10-26-2019, 10:11 PM
Turkey Invades Syria - by I am Yoda - 10-23-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 10:16 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by TrivialPursuit - 10-23-2019, 10:22 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 10:26 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 12:20 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 12:34 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 12:44 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 12:44 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 02:33 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 12:48 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jagibelieve - 10-23-2019, 02:13 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 02:19 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 01:11 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by MalabarJag - 10-26-2019, 09:53 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by MalabarJag - 10-27-2019, 04:27 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 03:44 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 04:05 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jagibelieve - 10-23-2019, 05:08 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 05:16 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 08:13 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 06:23 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-23-2019, 08:29 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-23-2019, 09:56 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-23-2019, 11:09 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-24-2019, 10:54 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-24-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by mikesez - 10-24-2019, 11:14 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-24-2019, 11:43 AM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-24-2019, 11:16 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-25-2019, 12:02 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by jj82284 - 10-25-2019, 12:28 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-25-2019, 12:58 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-25-2019, 02:27 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-25-2019, 02:29 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-25-2019, 02:32 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-25-2019, 02:36 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-25-2019, 02:37 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by ferocious - 10-25-2019, 02:38 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-25-2019, 02:50 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by flsprtsgod - 10-26-2019, 10:57 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by Kane - 10-30-2019, 12:34 PM
RE: Turkey Invades Syria - by MalabarJag - 10-30-2019, 02:36 PM



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