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Judge them by their words

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(This post was last modified: 11-01-2019, 06:50 AM by mikesez.)

(10-31-2019, 07:10 PM)Sneakers Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 03:12 PM)mikesez Wrote: An abuse of power is not necessarily illegal.


No, but lying about the occurrence of that abuse while under oath is.

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Having sex with an intern that you supervise is not illegal, but it is abuse of power.
Lying about your sex life while under oath is not an abuse of power, but it is illegal.

Criminal courts punish crimes.  Congress considers impeachment to punish abuse of power, not crimes.

(10-31-2019, 10:04 PM)jj82284 Wrote:
(10-31-2019, 02:04 PM)mikesez Wrote: Ever since the whistleblower complaint came out, Democrats in the House have been very consistent:

"This would be an abuse of power if true."

But the Republicans in the House keep changing their story:

"You haven't investigated enough to know that, there's just this one complaint and one transcript"
*They call witnesses and get more evidence*
"Your procedure is all wrong, the whole House has to vote to investigate"
*They hold a vote to investigate*
"We think there are better things to do with our time"
"This is tanking the stock market."
"You're just trying to overturn the 2016 election"

If you don't think Trump abused power, say so.  If you think his actions are good and normal, say so.  They wouldn't be quibbling so much about process if they thought their man was innocent.  Trump is out there declaring his own innocence every day.  Don't you think it's telling that his erstwhile allies in Congress are not?

Plus we can dismiss some of these quibbles out of hand easily.
Impeaching the president is one of the jobs the Constitution gives the House.  It doesn't say any job is more important.  The Constitution doesn't mention the stock market or even the economy.   A vote to impeach does not overturn the 2016 election.  All the judges Trump got remain in place, and Pence becomes President, not Hillary.

This is a neat trick.  As part of our corrupt process, we are going to embargo any details of the depositions we deem fit so that our opponents CAN'T argue substance in the public square while we set the narrative.  Shameful!  The Republicans are upset because they want the hearings out in the open, and they want the full transcripts of the depositions leaked.  It's not, "Oh well we don't have anything to say, let's just bang the table," It's "We just shredded your witness and the narrative you're advancing, but you won't let us share it with the American people!"  

The President and Republicans in the Senate will have the power to call witnesses and publicly question all witnesses once the impeachment resolutions pass.

But I'm sure the right wing media machine will come up with another reason that everyone should disregard these proceedings and be upset about them once that happens.
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Messages In This Thread
Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 02:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by homebiscuit - 10-31-2019, 02:17 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 02:23 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by StroudCrowd1 - 10-31-2019, 02:40 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 03:02 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 03:12 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jagibelieve - 10-31-2019, 05:21 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 08:56 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Sneakers - 10-31-2019, 07:10 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 10-31-2019, 10:09 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 10-31-2019, 10:29 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 10-31-2019, 10:43 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 06:55 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 07:02 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 09:57 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-01-2019, 10:10 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 10:25 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by TrivialPursuit - 11-01-2019, 10:53 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 11:36 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 01:22 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-01-2019, 02:46 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 11:47 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-01-2019, 02:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 02:55 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-02-2019, 09:12 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 10:14 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by MalabarJag - 11-02-2019, 12:42 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 01:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 02:26 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-02-2019, 03:31 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-01-2019, 03:19 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by snaxdelrio - 10-31-2019, 03:14 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 10-31-2019, 04:24 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 10-31-2019, 10:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by rollerjag - 11-02-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by flsprtsgod - 11-02-2019, 11:35 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by p_rushing - 10-31-2019, 11:07 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by StroudCrowd1 - 11-01-2019, 10:59 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 03:32 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 03:48 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 05:28 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-01-2019, 05:49 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-01-2019, 09:29 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-01-2019, 10:59 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 12:28 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:02 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 04:48 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 11-02-2019, 09:40 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 12:36 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 03:22 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 04:12 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 05:04 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 06:06 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 07:18 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:01 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by JagNGeorgia - 11-02-2019, 08:31 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:09 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-02-2019, 09:30 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by mikesez - 11-02-2019, 09:41 PM
RE: Judge them by their words - by jj82284 - 11-03-2019, 03:11 AM
RE: Judge them by their words - by Byron LeftTown - 11-03-2019, 05:53 AM



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