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Too early for CAP talk - 2020?

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(11-12-2019, 06:13 PM)JagNGeorgia Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 11:42 AM)Kane Wrote: I just did a little research into the DT market on spotrac.

I may change my tune slightly on Dareus after looking at the numbers for current DTs in the league around his age and production. While the cap hit is a high number, his actual contract is not bad.
I would still like him to restructure or possibly extend his contract to help the teams cap situation, perhaps with some magic worked by Idzik with some signing bonus or moving dollars around if possible.

But I no longer think he is an easy cut just to clear that cap space.

By cutting Lee, Swaim, Ryan, Cann, and Jones we save 21.8 mil and puts us in the black.


I'm not sure I understand. His contract ends after next season, so his cap hit is all that matters. He's at $22.5M which is behind only Aaron Donald and Fletcher Cox (from what I could tell). Both players are significantly better than Dareus. Every other decent DT had a cap hit between $10-15M, which is where I see his value.

I said I'd still rather have him restructure or extend. But if his perceived cap hit value is at 15, and we're talking 22... it's tough pill to swallow but one that could be done if it means keeping the DL stout. We aren't getting his production from a rookie or from Jones.
We set up this deal like this on purpose, and it's probably still likely the team cuts him if he's unwilling to rework the deal.

(11-12-2019, 09:07 PM)JackCity Wrote:
(11-12-2019, 11:42 AM)Kane Wrote: I just did a little research into the DT market on spotrac.

I may change my tune slightly on Dareus after looking at the numbers for current DTs in the league around his age and production. While the cap hit is a high number, his actual contract is not bad.
I would still like him to restructure or possibly extend his contract to help the teams cap situation, perhaps with some magic worked by Idzik with some signing bonus or moving dollars around if possible.

But I no longer think he is an easy cut just to clear that cap space.

By cutting Lee, Swaim, Ryan, Cann, and Jones we save 21.8 mil and puts us in the black.


Dareus is essentially just a run stuffer at this point in his career and while a good one that's the easiest position to replace on defense. He'd want to be restructured to a fairly low amount to make it worth it

He's not just a run stuffer though. He's actually gotten good inside pressure quite a bit since coming aboard. We picked him up for his run stuffing and run defense... but when healthy he was a force inside getting pressure on the QB.

That all being said. If they cut him, it clears a lot of cap space, which is good.
If they don't cut him but make enough cuts elsewhere, it really won't kill us and we'll keep a very good player.

Best case scenario is he reworks his deal and we improve the cap situation and keep him.
We still need to draft a young NT in 2020 either way with an eye on the future.
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Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by JAGFAN4EVER! - 11-10-2019, 10:07 AM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Jags02 - 11-10-2019, 10:15 AM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by SeldomRite - 11-10-2019, 12:40 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by jaglou53 - 11-10-2019, 01:10 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Jags02 - 11-11-2019, 05:43 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by jaglou53 - 11-11-2019, 07:37 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Jags02 - 11-13-2019, 09:40 AM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by flsprtsgod - 11-10-2019, 02:05 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by SeldomRite - 11-10-2019, 03:09 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by DragonFury - 11-10-2019, 05:16 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by flsprtsgod - 11-10-2019, 06:37 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-10-2019, 06:43 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by JAllen#41 - 11-10-2019, 08:10 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-11-2019, 03:28 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-11-2019, 03:40 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-11-2019, 04:02 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by flsprtsgod - 11-10-2019, 09:15 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-10-2019, 09:40 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-10-2019, 05:46 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Elitemajik - 11-10-2019, 06:49 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by SeldomRite - 11-10-2019, 07:10 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by D-Money - 11-10-2019, 08:46 PM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by navyjagfan - 11-17-2019, 09:34 AM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-11-2019, 08:34 AM
RE: To early for CAP talk - 2020? - by flsprtsgod - 11-11-2019, 09:36 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-12-2019, 11:42 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by JackCity - 11-12-2019, 09:07 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-13-2019, 10:47 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-13-2019, 10:56 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-13-2019, 11:18 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-13-2019, 12:02 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Upper - 11-14-2019, 09:10 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by rufftime - 11-14-2019, 02:47 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-15-2019, 10:38 AM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-15-2019, 03:27 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by rufftime - 11-15-2019, 04:36 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-15-2019, 04:50 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by TJBender - 11-16-2019, 01:24 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Jags02 - 11-16-2019, 04:28 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Caldrac - 11-16-2019, 05:07 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-18-2019, 12:23 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Caldrac - 11-18-2019, 12:28 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by JAllen#41 - 11-18-2019, 04:14 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Kane - 11-18-2019, 05:09 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Eric1 - 11-16-2019, 05:57 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Jags02 - 11-16-2019, 11:09 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by NYC4jags - 11-18-2019, 04:13 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Mikey - 11-18-2019, 12:06 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by Cleatwood - 11-18-2019, 12:10 PM
RE: Too early for CAP talk - 2020? - by JAllen#41 - 11-18-2019, 12:13 PM



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