(11-25-2019, 11:10 AM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:

(11-25-2019, 11:09 AM)mal234 Wrote: I prefer Minshew but I can't help but feel bad for Nick Foles. He is a really nice guy and I can think he can deliver decent QB play (and sometimes really good QB play), if he has the right setup around him. This whole situation is a bit of a mess. I do feel like Nick is getting a lot more blame/ire than he deserves. He hasn't looked very good, but I don't think believe his play is the biggest problem with this team. I think that the way that the defense is playing and coaching are bigger problems. And I do wonder if the coaching staff brought Nick back a bit too early. I think he could be a bit shaky/rusty.

I think that the coaching staff is going to stick with him until at least the end of the season. (Barring injury). I hope he plays better, I think that it's a chance he might. Next week would be a good opportunity for that against Tampa. But the team has to step up and help him. The defense has been playing really poorly. Next week is an opportunity for them to bounce back, against Jameis, who has thrown 20 interceptions this year. They need to get some more from him next week.

One of the interesting things about this situation is that I thought that the team might rally around Nick. Because of the way they were acting when they heard he would return as the starting QB. Some of the players especially the veteran ones like Calais Campbell were really hyping up Nick. Calais was on First Take saying stuff like if Nick had played the whole year he would have been an MVP candidate. There was another player who said they were glad that Nick was back.  They were acting as if they had played with Nick for years and that they really trusted/believed in him. It didn't like some of them were even talking about what Gardner had did for them, they were so focused on being happy that Nick was back/playing for him. And then we comes back, they don't play well, and elevate their games for him. It's something. So far they have played with more energy with Minshew, even though some of them were acting like they preferred/trusted Nick more.

I do wonder how some of the younger players felt about the switch like DJ Chark/Josh Allen. I don't know if they really commented on the switch (maybe they did, but I didn't recall reading any comments from them).  The Jags account on Twitter posted a video a few weeks ago from the Jets game. It was after Minshew had threw his third touchdown to DJ Chark, after he had escaped trouble again. Minshew goes over to talk with Josh and DJ and DJ looks at him and says something like "I have to admit you got me hyped up with that one." And DJ, Josh, Minshew seemed excited/happy/optimistic. So at the least some of the younger players admitted to being hyped up by Minshew's play. Truth be told, I think that at least some of the veterans were as well/also defensive players. That being said hope that Nick and the team fare better next week. I prefer Minshew, but I don't want to see Nick get more blame than he deserves and still want to see the team play well.

He's got 88 Million Dollars. Don't feel bad for him.

(11-25-2019, 11:11 AM)Cleatwood Wrote:

(11-25-2019, 11:09 AM)mal234 Wrote: I prefer Minshew but I can't help but feel bad for Nick Foles. He is a really nice guy......

Who cares if he's nice? He's paid to win football games.

Exactly. I can't feel sorry for Nick Foles. He's a lot more well off than most people. And he's a classic overachiever that got paid to be something that he's not here in Jacksonville by a desperate front office and coaching staff. 

I only feel sorry for this fan base. And I only feel especially sorry for the long standing season ticket holders here that have been trying to keep their seats warm since 1995 or at any point in general. I can't say it enough. You know who you are.

Thank you all for sacrificing your hard earned income and putting in the effort and time to be there for this city and it's franchise. It's beyond [BLEEP] admirable. Love you all. Even if I haven't met you. You have my utmost respect. And without you all this city doesn't have a team. 

I just hope someday they get this ship turned around and they bring us just one Superbowl title before we start losing some of you folks. It's a pisser man. Truly is.

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