(12-11-2019, 11:05 AM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(12-11-2019, 08:30 AM)NCJag Wrote: THIS.  This is a large part of the problem.  Coughlin's role is so nebulous and he's looked at as almost a GOD like figure in the organization, no one can determine who to pin the blame on: Is it Tom for being out of touch, Dave for bad drafting, or Doug for bad coaching? A mix of all three?  Get rid of EVERYONE. Start fresh.  Start from the top down.  GM has FINAL say in everything.

I'm mystified as to why so many people are still unclear on this. 

The EVP>GM>HC  chain of command has been around for decades and it is not nebulous nor uncommon. 

The Jaguars FO/coaching chain of command  works like any other conventional NFL franchise. The ONLY nebulous part is in player acquisition wherein the GM will arrive at a decision through the conventional methods - and then that decision may be questioned, altered or vetoed by the EVP.  Literally everything else works the same way. 

That said - I suppose the reason folks are unclear is because of all the rampant speculation that Coughlin has been "meddling" outside of his role.  The only actual incident of that confirmed thus far is that he gave Ramsey an earful after the sideline spat with the HC.  Every other "report" of TC meddling with HC duties and decisions is all just speculation. There is no confirmation of any other overstepping by TC. 

Don't get me wrong, This is not a defense of TC, just a presentation of facts about this situation.

The problem we have right now isn't in the chain and how it functions, but in the decisions made at QB and linebacker.

Yeah it was made pretty clear when Tom was brought on board he was the dude, he had the con.
EVP is Caldwella direct boss (I called him a babysitter at the time since he has final say over roster decisions)
And they are Dougs boss.
And Doug has control over his staff.
So Tom and Dave are at fault for the current state of the roster, the holes, lack of depth, bad QB choices.
Doug is at fault for holding on to Wash.

The only questions is, did Tom and/or Dave over reach and have a hand in Marrone bringing Foles back from injury so quickly. Even so, that's basically how a chain of command would work, even if it's an abuse of the power. Which just adds more fuel to the fire for the house cleaning thing imo.

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