(12-24-2019, 11:06 PM)JagFan81 Wrote: But you cant say when we have a team of studs and 1st round picks, the coaching will work. 

2017 was a one off. Literally. We haven't had a winning season before or after. We were 3-1 and collapsed and wobbled to 4-4 thanks to Minshew and collapsed to 5-10. October/November is when the coaching and work you've been putting in since July kicks in. It hasn't for us. Weve gone backwards. We have one or two injuries and the whole D or O collapses.

You mention Carroll. Hes lost everyone but Wagner from that SB D. They are still a playoff team in a super tough division. Tomlin was 1-4, lost Roethlisberger, Brown and Juju, and has them at 8-7. Good coaches find a way to win with a bad team.
Shanahan has turned the Niners round in 3 years, same with Zimmer in Minnesota. Gruden has Oakland 8-7. 

Marrone just hasn't shown that ability.

What do you mean? It did work when we had Fowler and Ramsey. As soon as injuries hit us in 2018 our team fell apart, because there was NO depth. The Seah
awks and Steelers constantly have great depth. Caroll has had AMAZING rosters during his SB runs. And Russell Wilson is a league defining player so of course they are going to be in the conversation. Before Carroll was milking 7-9 seasons out of his team BUT in a very weak division back then. 

Tomlin is a top 3 coach in this league, I dont know how he does it, hes amazing. If there is a Mike Tomlin out there then yes, fire Marrone and lets hire him. 
But, chances are there ISNT. And oh by the way, we BEAT Tomlin TWICE our 2017 season. 

The 49ers were awful, now they have a super competitive roster of course hes doing great. 
The only coach in this league who has the secret sauce in Belicheck, everyone else is really imo at the same level.

It's the 70% Players 20% Coaching 10% Luck

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