If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record

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If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record

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12-30-2019, 12:16 PM

(12-30-2019, 11:37 AM)Brett Wrote:
(12-30-2019, 11:33 AM)NYC4jags Wrote: Analyzing a GM strictly based upon the W/L column is sort-of like blaming some Montana rancher because you didn't particularly love your steak at Ruth Chris one night.

They are related, but there's a whole slew of stuff in between you have to consider.

That said - I'm hoping Khan is ready to move forward at GM and HC.
I think Caldwell would do a decent job continuing to assemble talent, but after the past two seasons and the Coughlin debacle, a fresh start feels like the right move.

I agree. Curious your thoughts on if Khan keeps both and goes against his word from last year of "a change being made if progress isn't shown"?

As Caldrac said, a change was made. It just wasn't all the change we are hoping for.

Khan has not given Marrone or Caldwell a statement of support like Arthur Blank did for Dan Quinn. The responses to the false "Marrone fired" report were carefully worded to avoid implying he will not be fired. Either or both could still be fired. Khan knows better than any of us who made which bad decisions. Hopefully his decision on those two will be the right one based on his knowledge.

As far as I'm concerned, I'm on record as supporting Caldwell and wanting to move on from Marrone, but that's purely based on my analysis of the Coughlin/Caldwell/Marrone stuff from what I've read, and the observation that the coaching staff is mostly (or completely) responsible for the failure of the OL, with Marrone being a former OL coach and thus doubly responsible.

At a minimum, the team should replace Wash and the OL coach with coaches with solid track records. If that would be impossible to do because of Marrone's lame duck status, then Marrone must go too.

"Why should I give information to you when all you want to do is find something wrong with it?"

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If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by leopold332002 - 12-30-2019, 08:27 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 12-30-2019, 09:03 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by leopold332002 - 12-30-2019, 09:26 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 12-30-2019, 09:31 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by jagman - 12-30-2019, 10:03 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 10:05 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by jaguarmvp - 12-30-2019, 10:28 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 11:21 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by MalabarJag - 12-31-2019, 11:20 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JagsFansince1995 - 12-30-2019, 10:16 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by jaguarmvp - 12-30-2019, 10:22 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by leopold332002 - 12-31-2019, 07:42 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 12-31-2019, 11:30 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Legal American - 12-30-2019, 11:18 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by leopold332002 - 12-31-2019, 12:06 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 12-31-2019, 11:11 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Legal American - 01-01-2020, 08:00 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by NYC4jags - 01-01-2020, 08:19 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by navyjagfan - 01-01-2020, 09:42 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JackCity - 01-01-2020, 10:50 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by navyjagfan - 01-01-2020, 11:04 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 01-02-2020, 10:53 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 09:16 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by SeldomRite - 12-30-2019, 09:20 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 09:25 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by SeldomRite - 12-30-2019, 09:38 AM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 09:46 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by imtheblkranger - 12-30-2019, 10:00 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 10:01 AM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Kane - 12-30-2019, 03:46 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by imtheblkranger - 12-30-2019, 03:57 PM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Lucky2Last - 12-30-2019, 10:05 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 10:13 AM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by NYC4jags - 12-30-2019, 11:33 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 11:47 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Brett - 12-30-2019, 11:37 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by NYC4jags - 12-30-2019, 11:51 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by imtheblkranger - 12-30-2019, 12:05 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by NYC4jags - 12-30-2019, 12:08 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JagFan81 - 12-30-2019, 12:12 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 12-30-2019, 12:17 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by NYC4jags - 12-30-2019, 12:24 PM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Upper - 12-30-2019, 11:45 AM

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If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by p_rushing - 12-30-2019, 12:16 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Brett - 12-30-2019, 01:00 PM

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If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by raptor6581 - 12-30-2019, 03:49 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 04:04 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by imtheblkranger - 12-30-2019, 04:05 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 04:06 PM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JackCity - 12-30-2019, 04:08 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by imtheblkranger - 12-30-2019, 04:15 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JackCity - 12-30-2019, 04:52 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Caldrac - 12-30-2019, 04:32 PM

RE: Marrone - Has plan to pitch to Khan(s) - by p_rushing - 12-30-2019, 04:56 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by navyjagfan - 12-30-2019, 07:32 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by I am Yoda - 12-30-2019, 07:35 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by TheO-LineMatters - 12-30-2019, 10:27 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JagFan81 - 12-31-2019, 10:58 AM

If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Caldrac - 12-30-2019, 07:34 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by enigma - 12-30-2019, 07:36 PM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by enigma - 12-30-2019, 09:10 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Caldrac - 12-30-2019, 07:41 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by p_rushing - 12-30-2019, 07:44 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Cleatwood - 12-30-2019, 08:18 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Caldrac - 12-30-2019, 07:46 PM

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RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Brett - 12-30-2019, 09:13 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by RicoTx - 12-31-2019, 07:14 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Upper - 01-02-2020, 11:26 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by flsprtsgod - 01-02-2020, 11:35 AM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by JaG4LyFe - 01-04-2020, 05:21 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by snowwolf776 - 01-09-2020, 05:45 PM

RE: If Shad Khan retains Doug Marrone and Dave Caldwell despite their record - by Mikey - 01-10-2020, 10:18 AM

RE: Marrone - Has plan to pitch to Khan(s) - by StroudCrowd1 - 12-30-2019, 01:33 PM

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