(01-02-2020, 07:32 PM)Nikowho Wrote:

(01-02-2020, 06:57 PM)JackCity Wrote: I'm sold on him being the unquestioned starter in 2020 and then we can go from there with his evaluation. If he thrives, great, we have a QB. If he plays bad, great we go into 2021 draft and take someone high.    

And if he plays average? Ehh i dunno. Half the fanbase will make excuses and say hes the guy, the other half will say draft a QB in 21'

That's a fair standard to hold, all things considered, going into 2020.

What would 'average' QB numbers look like, exactly, though? 20 TDs, 10 or so INTs?

Problem is that you can make an argument out of any numbers, which is exactly why people are divided on him in the first place, unfortunately. To me, he's gotta be MORE than a game manager; that's when you know you may very well have someone who can be your future starter. Game managing quarterbacks have to play to NOT make mistakes, and rely on a perfect team around them. If Minshew can put up great numbers next year even with mediocre talent around him (Barring improvements in other teammates, of course!) I'd say that makes me think, Marrone or no, that MAYBE he's worth hanging onto for awhile longer.

I'd rather not see this team become like Denver in which they keep drafting and they keep missing on the turnstile of QBs....not that Jacksonville hasn't been doing that either, but you know what I mean? They drafted Lynch, Semian, brought in Keenum, Flacco, drafted Lock, and MAYBE Lock will do it for them after all of this time, but who knows? That's what makes football exciting I guess. You never do know entirely. For me? Even with all of his struggles, watching Minshew play actually made me enjoy watching the Jags for a change. I didn't get that feeling while watching Foles or Bortles, that's all I know.

Yeah I agree , numbers alone won't tell you if he's good enough or not. More so mean average as in tiers of QB.  

Even when Minshew has played badly he's still being good at eventually coming back into the game...with Blake if he played bad you knew it was a wrap.  In 2020 I'd just like to see more consistency. Cut the fumbles down with a few more weapons and you will get a better QB automatically.  

If he repeats his rookie year performance year 2 I'd find it hard not to take a first round QB in 2021. This is all ages away but the last think you want to do is align yourself with an average Qb when theres franchise Qbs to be had

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(01-02-2020, 08:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote:

(01-02-2020, 08:02 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Teams will have tape on him now. The AFC and NFC North divisions on this year's schedule will test him as well.

I like what I saw out of him from time to time. He has the ability to escape and buy time for a critical play.

He can make pretty good throws under pressure. He just has to show consistency in year two.

Sophmore slumps are very real. So that's why I am tempering my expectations for him. There's a lot of holes to fill.

My concerns would be finding him a viable option at the TE position. Finding him another WR like Chark. And certainly addressing the LT and RG positions in particular.

But the defense could hinder some of that this off season if we lose Dareus, Campbell and Bouye. The back seven is weak enough as it is.

Losing two big bodies on the front four will hurt us. We'll see though.

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Tyler Johonson please. Not like Chark but is a great route runner and can make any catch.  Did you see the catch he had against Aurburn when he put up over 200 yards?  My favorite WR in the draft

Big fan of Tyler too, and you won't need to spend a top 100 pick on him either

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