(01-02-2020, 08:40 PM)JackCity Wrote:

(01-02-2020, 07:32 PM)Nikowho Wrote: That's a fair standard to hold, all things considered, going into 2020.

What would 'average' QB numbers look like, exactly, though? 20 TDs, 10 or so INTs?

Problem is that you can make an argument out of any numbers, which is exactly why people are divided on him in the first place, unfortunately. To me, he's gotta be MORE than a game manager; that's when you know you may very well have someone who can be your future starter. Game managing quarterbacks have to play to NOT make mistakes, and rely on a perfect team around them. If Minshew can put up great numbers next year even with mediocre talent around him (Barring improvements in other teammates, of course!) I'd say that makes me think, Marrone or no, that MAYBE he's worth hanging onto for awhile longer.

I'd rather not see this team become like Denver in which they keep drafting and they keep missing on the turnstile of QBs....not that Jacksonville hasn't been doing that either, but you know what I mean? They drafted Lynch, Semian, brought in Keenum, Flacco, drafted Lock, and MAYBE Lock will do it for them after all of this time, but who knows? That's what makes football exciting I guess. You never do know entirely. For me? Even with all of his struggles, watching Minshew play actually made me enjoy watching the Jags for a change. I didn't get that feeling while watching Foles or Bortles, that's all I know.

Yeah I agree , numbers alone won't tell you if he's good enough or not. More so mean average as in tiers of QB.  

Even when Minshew has played badly he's still being good at eventually coming back into the game...with Blake if he played bad you knew it was a wrap.  In 2020 I'd just like to see more consistency. Cut the fumbles down with a few more weapons and you will get a better QB automatically.  

If he repeats his rookie year performance year 2 I'd find it hard not to take a first round QB in 2021. This is all ages away but the last think you want to do is align yourself with an average Qb when theres franchise Qbs to be had

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(01-02-2020, 08:24 PM)flgatorsandjags Wrote: Tyler Johonson please. Not like Chark but is a great route runner and can make any catch.  Did you see the catch he had against Aurburn when he put up over 200 yards?  My favorite WR in the draft

Big fan of Tyler too, and you won't need to spend a top 100 pick on him either

You mean top 10 pick?  I would be shocked if he made it to our 3rd round pick but I think he will go in the 2nd.  Especially after the way he looked in the Aurburn game.  No way does he not get drafted in the first 100 picks

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(01-02-2020, 08:45 PM)TrivialPursuit Wrote:

(01-02-2020, 08:37 PM)Cleatwood Wrote: I’m fine with heading into next year with Minshew but passing up potential franchise QBs (again I only see Tua as one at pick 9) because you may have something in Minshew is a mistake. It’s like drafting Leftwitch and then passing on Ben.

The Cardinals took Rosen and then said “nah. We aren’t complacent. Lets go take Murray”.

Minshew has earned the right to come back in 2020 but to me, we aren’t so set that we should pass up elite QB talent if it’s there. 

Right now they don’t have a backup plan if Minshew doesn’t plan out other than “Hey. We will just go get one in 2021” which is such a Jaguars thing to do. “There’s always next year”

Rosen was garbage compared to Minshew though.

Minshew, with limited weapons, an offense not tailored for him, still did better than Kyler Murray.

Yeah, thats a horrible comparison.  If Rosen looked as good as Minshew did they would of kept him and drafted Bosa

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