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Could Bears be trade partner for Foles?

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(This post was last modified: 01-21-2020, 10:43 AM by Kane.)

(01-20-2020, 08:22 PM)navyjagfan Wrote:
(01-20-2020, 12:13 PM)flsprtsgod Wrote: A 3 million dollar cap savings is what these people are suggesting is worth a 2nd round pick.


That's not true.  Sure, it's a $3M cap savings in 2020, but then Foles is off the books.  You cut Foles in 2021 and you take a $15M cap hit.  

So in reality, it's an $18M cap savings.   Think of it this way - that's enough to sign a premiere free agent or a few mid-tier free agents, which is probably more talent than we would acquire with a 2nd round pick.

(01-20-2020, 10:07 AM)Kane Wrote: I would not give up a 2nd. We're still eating a lot of cap even trading him.

The situation is similar to what the Texans had to do with Brock Osweiler.  Signed him to a big contract, realized he was awful, and to create salary cap space they gave up a 2nd rounder.  

$18M in overall salary cap savings.

Houston shipped off Osweiler with a 6th round pick of the same year (2017) and a future (2018) 2nd rounder. They also rec'd a 4th from 2017 from the Browns. The Browns also at the time had 100 mil free on their cap. 
Houston immediately got 16 mil off their books whereas we still eat most of his money and trading Foles only SAVES us 3,125,000 on the cap. The rest of the cap hit is there for this year regardless. (Use Spotrac to manage salary cap roster and see for yourself.)
I'm not against shipping Foles and a late rounder to shed his contract. But no matter how you slice it, we're eating most of his contract this year no matter what.



Sending a 2nd round pick off with him just isn't going to happen because it isn't smart.

(01-21-2020, 07:41 AM)Dimson Wrote: No point in trading Foles. Worst case scenario, he is a really experienced, albeit really expensive back up.

Yeah... with a 6th rounder as a starter we don't have that much tied up in the position really. And I think this is the route we take. "QB comp" in camp. With Minshew "winning".
I use quotes cuz I'd like to think that they are leaning toward Minshew being the guy anyway. But we'll see.
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Messages In This Thread
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by Jags - 01-17-2020, 08:05 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by High Octane - 01-17-2020, 08:37 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by The Real Marty - 01-18-2020, 06:59 AM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by High Octane - 01-18-2020, 01:34 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by JackCity - 01-17-2020, 09:09 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by Jags - 01-17-2020, 09:13 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by JackCity - 01-18-2020, 12:44 AM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by Upper - 01-17-2020, 09:13 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by jaguarmvp - 01-17-2020, 10:47 PM
RE: Foles trade to Chicago? - by The Real Marty - 01-18-2020, 06:52 AM
RE: Could Bears be trade partner for Foles? - by Kane - 01-21-2020, 10:39 AM



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