(02-23-2020, 12:24 PM)JagJohn Wrote: (02-23-2020, 11:51 AM)D-Money Wrote: My only issue with this is we have sucked for years, even if we are not in a win now mode our front office had pretty much always made terrible decisions. Would you rather have year like 2017 when almost go to the Super bowl and then a couple years down or just consistently be 5-11, 6-10? I think our fans and ownership need a change in mentality.
Also outside of the Patriots, what team do you feel has a formula that we should follow. I feel like alot of teams are up and down. The Ravens take risk and look where they are now. They blew a lot of money with Flacco after they won a super bowl a very strong defense, similar to our 2017 team, they had a few down years and are back because they took a risk on Lamar Jackson, when we wasted our pick on a experimental DT Taven Bryan, similar to how we wasted a pick on Alualu in the first round some years back.
I think being in a win now allows the team to pick players the will immediately help the team rather than experimental picks hoping they pan out. It also gives the fanbase hope. We like to go into seasons thinking we have a chance to win the super bowl. That is goal for every franchise.
I ask you ..did you enjoy our 2017 season better than any other season we had in the last 10 years? I def did and if we can have more of those, I think it will get us away from moving to London.
No, I hated every moment of it, as I'm sure many other jags fans also did. Winning sucks.
Of course everyone enjoys winning seasons more than losing seasons. The question is; which approach to team building gives this team the chance to consistently have winning seasons over the next 10 years?
You also assume that 2017's success was due to the team adopting a win-now approach, when in reality it was a culmination of years of team building which was always designed to eventually be reinforced by high-priced free agency. Undoubtedly Coughlin's arrival and win-lunch mindset lit a bit of a fire under this franchise, so in a way it did work.
Drafting Fournette at 4, over Mahomes and Watson, is a prime example of the win-now mindset. And in 2017, it kind of seemed like it might have been the best decision because we had immediate success. How does that decision look now? That is exactly the kind of decision I want this team to avoid this off-season.
I'm not even trying to be funny, just saying that I would take a "win now" season where we make big moves and signing to make it very deep in the playoffs and be down for 2 years to let some of the contracts die out over our of "smart" free agent signing and draft picks and consistently pick in the top 10 of the draft every year.
Not picking Mahomes and Watson in that draft did seem ok because of what it got us that year. 4nette helped us more than anyone thought he would. Bortles was decent the year before that, at one point we all thought we had our franchise qb but he regressed so we missed out on those 2 but we had the chance to make up by taking a risk on Lamar Jackson because there was some doubt with Bortles during the 2017 season, even though he stepped up big in the playoffs.
If we would have took Lamar Jackson instead of Taven Bryan, all would be forgiven because there is no question of the difference in impact between Lamar and Taven. There could be a debate between the impact that 4nette gave us compared to what Watson and Mahomes were doing for our 2017 season. Even though it may look crazy now with how they are playing but 4nette is still giving us production.
I say that to say, its not the "win now" mindset, it is the front office making terrible decisions that has put this team in the position we are in now.
