(02-23-2020, 07:58 PM)D-Money Wrote: (02-23-2020, 06:50 PM)NYC4jags Wrote: While I was fully on board with tagging A-Rob, he and his agent ended negotiations with the Jags prior to the season when he was injured, and Robinson later stated he decided he preferred to play somewhere with better staff stability.
Poz RETIRED. That wasn't about money.
Marcedes wasn't doing much good here IMO, but his experience/leadership may have had some value.
I don't see the loss of any of those guys as especially impactful except for Poz's impact vs the run game and there was nothing to be done about him opting to retire when he felt himself losing a step. And everyone here seemed to agree he was no longer a three down linebacker at the time.
I guess we all have to get our facts right, because look at the bolded above, he wanted to play one more year, some time it is not about the production on the field. I'm talking about the leadership aspect. Poz was getting less reps, that is cool but to have him as the locker room guy and pretty much as a coach on the field for leadership, work ethic and how to be professional which could have probably kept things from getting how they were. Last 2 year we were very undisciplined
Same thing with Mercedes it was the leadership aspect of it. The players have people to model after, did you not watch the pride and dedication that Lewis had on his interviews, being one of the only Jaguars to be there from when were in the playoffs in 2008 to going on a drought to finally being good again. All that stuff is needed for young players.
Again, I think we all need to come to an agreement because with ARob in another thread and the older articles I have read, it said Robinson wanted be here but when couldn't come to an agreement he they figure he would try somewhere else. If he wanted to leave cool but I dont understand why he want to being the number 1 WR on a team that just almost made it to the Super Bowl
A-Rob flatly stated that he decided a change was needed after playing for three different OC's in Jax.
I've quoted the article here a half dozen times now and that's what I'm going with. Others believe he was low-balled by our F.O. based on comments he made in another article.
I still would have tagged him if I were Dave Caldwell regardless of which take is more accurate.
I absolutely agree the horrible lack of discipline (positionally and otherwise) was a major factor in the losses in 2018 and 2019 and don't disagree that those vets could have influenced the youngers players around them to some degree.
But I do believe a a lot of that needs to fall on the coaching staff and I hold them at fault for not instilling more discipline in their players.
I have never seen anything about Poz wanting to keep on playing, but it wouldn't shock me if it were true.
Can neither confirm nor deny that one.
