(02-24-2020, 06:39 PM)NYC4jags Wrote:

(02-24-2020, 06:13 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Mark Andrews was a lot more polished and ready to go for the NFL over Hayden Hurst. I don't know how that was overlooked. I guess the age difference or the QB play from each team played a role. He was a much more viable red zone target coming out of college though. Hurst was nowhere near as good in the receiving game. Maybe it was that whole SEC bias Vs. Big 12 conference.

Thankful we didn't draft him though. And if they trade for him it'll just be a waste of a pick. They need a move TE. Not another blocky [BLEEP] that can't get open and make plays downfield. Harrison Bryant, Hunter Bryant & Adam Trautman need to be targeted by this team. IMHO, if they trade for Hurst you're just getting another James O'Shaughnessy. And what does that say about your 69th overall investment you just made last year in Josh Oliver?

Did they mail it in with him already? Or does this team play on running a bunch of twin and trio TE sets? Makes no sense at this time. . .

Adding talent to the position group makes sense regardless of how the f.o. and staff view Oliver. 

The Jags are coming off a year that saw multiple tight ends on IR and multiple guys signed off that street playing high snap counts. I can see why they aren't sitting on their hands about the TE room.  They simply want to prevent a repeat of 2019's  TE scenario.  

Gruden uses the TE differently than DeFilippo attempted to, so we don't really know what "type" he and the F.O. are after right now -  and they likely see Oliver as their primary "move" TE. As they should, IMO. 
One thing he does like to do sometimes that Defilippo also did is to utilize a TE as a lead blocker instead of a FB.
Here's an article that one may interpret to predict two TE sets becoming a common thing in the Jags' 2020 offense.
https://247sports.com/nfl/washington-red...-74986208/

Find encouragement in the fact that they are at least looking to make moves  - and that in 4 of Gruden's 5 years in DC, his top two tight ends combined for 900+ yards.  Two of those seasons also saw at least 8 TDs from the redskins TE group.

While I fully understand where you're coming from based on all of the above at that position in 2019. You're not hesitant even at the slightest that the Ravens are already willing to move on from him after two years? 

That's not good. He'll be 27 or 28 already by the time the regular season starts. Just doesn't seem like a good idea. And here's the thing. As StroudCrowd hinted at earlier. People still have faith in Caldwell as a competent General Manager around here?

I don't. But what I do know is that he tends to have better success picking on day two and day three of most of his drafts so far. Would rather see him keep whatever draft pick it is that he's thinking about forking over to Baltimore and aim for a younger, slower development type player at the position like Harrison or Hunter Bryant or maybe Adam Trautman.

I think you're essentially gaining James O'Shaughnessy again by trading for Hayden Hurst.

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