(03-02-2020, 04:38 PM)jagibelieve Wrote:

(03-02-2020, 04:24 PM)mikesez Wrote: If Bernie is the nominee, Florida is not in play.  Has nothing to do with Cubans.  Has everything to do with black voters and retired voters.  Bernie has a chance to win the presidency because he might flip PA, OH, and MI.  But he won't flip FL.  Biden could flip Florida.

That said, I'm married into a S FL Cuban family, and I can tell you the conventional wisdom there is becoming less true.  The ones who came over before about 1990 seem to be very loyal to the Republican party, but the ones who came after are not loyal to either party.  It seems to have to do with whether or not the person experienced Cuba after the Soviets cut off the fuel subsidies. The second and third generations also have little loyalty either way.  Anyhow, every cycle the number of cold war stalwarts shrinks and the second group grows.

How exactly does Bernie have the chance to flip PA, OH and MI?  Retired voters?  I don't think so.  Most people at or near retirement know what socialism is all about if they have been informed the past 30-40 years.