(03-03-2020, 07:19 PM)D-Money Wrote:

(03-03-2020, 06:55 PM)JagJohn Wrote: Very likely. I'm definitely not trying to suggest this organization is anywhere close to actually being successful.

My point is, in 3, 4 years down the line there's a semi-decent chance that a 4th round pick from this draft will be a contributing player. The odds on Bouye continuing to be effective are rapidly dropping with each passing year.

I don't understand the logic, because if you look at our past drafts, are there any of our 4th rounds picks there are contributing in a positive way? I'm not sure when it switched but it seems like people value draft picks more than good players.

The thing people are not taking into to account is that draft picks majority of the time don't pan out. Forget about our 4th round picks, where are all our past 1 thru 3rd round picks from over the years?

I understand if you are trying think positive but outside of that, what we have done and what we are doing is not good, its hard to the same front office, that have been able to blame, players, coughlin, offensive coordinator, d coordinators, are still making the decisions of how many seasons of losing

I'm definitely not "thinking positive", I've been saying all off-season that I see very very little chance of us having success next year. That's why I think we need to be taking a longer term approach and building for 2 or 3 years down the line.

Look, I agree with you on the broad point that this organization was too quick to dismantle the 2017 defense, either by choice or mishandling. But it's too late to try to cling onto that fleeting glory now... It's long gone.

And while I understand that draft picks are far from a sure thing, you can say the same for any form of player acquisition. The truth is we are at a moment in time with some young good players, including a QB, and the team should be being built for the future around them. The Bouye trade fits into that mould.

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