(03-05-2020, 08:23 PM)Last42min Wrote: (03-05-2020, 04:49 PM)Caldrac Wrote: Nope. Didn't say that at all. In fact. I have been saying for a few years now that 2017 was a fluke if you really look at the schedule and the quality of teams they faced. And they barely scrounged up 10 wins that year while still managing to lose to the Mariota led tacks twice, a Cardinals team led by Gabbert, a Jets team led by an over the hill McCown and a few other rookies on the schedule too I believe.
They had to pull countless trick plays out of their [BLEEP] as well on special teams that year just to keep the incompetent offense on the football field longer. Don't be fooled. This team was far, far and away from being a legitimate contender with this front office in place. If they were that close we wouldn't have seen them collapse as bad as they did.
They caught a lucky break that year on the schedule. That's about it.
I can agree with you to a degree. For example, I used to caution that it would be virtually impossible for the 2017 defense to ever score as much as they did that year. There were a couple games where they legitimately scored the bulk of our points. That would have been almost impossible to repeat. The defense was still good going into the following year. Minus some major offensive woes, I think we would have still been competitive. Suggesting that the entire year was a fluke is going too far. The Jags defense was built pretty solidly. If you replace Bortles with Mahomes the following year, you are looking at a game changer. If Coughlin never comes in, we lose Campbell (possibly), but gain Mahomes and lose Bortles? Yes please.
Not going to argue that Mahomes is a great QB. He's proven that early already between the Superbowl Win, the MVP title, etc. Front office blew that one for sure. Same can be said for Watson. With that said. I don't have that much confidence in this coaching staff if we were to turn back time and had Mahomes instead of Bortles.
You simply cannot discredit the job that Andy Reid and his staff have done. And you also cannot discredit how great of a family the Hunt's are in the NFL and they've managed to take chances on players with questionable character while also finding enough balance to make Reid's system successful with Mahomes being the final cherry on the top.
McNabb didn't have the killer instinct and arm ability of Mahomes to make it work with Andy. Smith also lacked that killer instinct and arm ability. But systematically Andy has ALWAYS been a damn, DAMN good offensive minded coach in the NFL. And his record speaks for itself.
I don't know if Mahomes or Watson would have been successful under Marrone or the players we have on offense. Kansas City has two of the BEST premier players at TE and WR right now in the NFL. Kecle and Hill are the [BLEEP]. They were already doing game breaking things before Mahomes was inserted into the line-up. He put them over the top.
It has to be a perfect storm between ownership, management, coaching and leadership on and off the field. The Chiefs have that. We simply don't. And that all starts with Khan. Highly, highly unlikely Mahomes would have had the same year here that he had in 2018 and just last year in a Jaguars uniform.
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