(03-06-2020, 06:21 PM)jvillejagsn1 Wrote:

(03-06-2020, 01:45 PM)iHaunting Raven Wrote: But a lot of you act like Coughlin was the worst thing that could have happened here... he wasn't, he made some mistakes yeah, but you people blame him for pretty much everything. I also don't like the disrespect against him when our best years have been with him.

Why do you care if I like anything? my posts bother you so much put me on ignore if you are this fragile.

Coughlin left us the same way he left us all those years back. We all appreciate what he did for the team back then, but he deserves a lot of the blame for where the team is now. So do the players. It goes both ways. I for one, feel like if we didn't bring TC in, we would still have had the year we had in 2017 and possibly a better 2018. He made decisions that have hurt our continued success and we are now having to start another rebuild. And whether we like it or not, whether we think it's soft or not, running the team like it's the military and  having the stigma of treating players like crap with the NFLPA saying for players not to come here is very bad. TC deserves as much blame as Jalen and Telvin do for stirring up the locker room and team comradery. If you want to take that as disrespect to him, that's on you. I'm just placing the proper accountability to those who have put our team in the position it is in and not kissing someone's rear end because of those long lost past great years...…..

Coughlin was, once again, brought here BECAUSE Caldwell had failed during his first 5 years here. He deserves some of the blame for his brief role. But ultimately the brunt of this mess falls squarely on the shoulders of Mr. Khan for not getting this [BLEEP] corrected to begin with. 

Typically when your General Manager fails to generate any success at any capacity whether short term or long term? They're shown the door. Especially after the head coach fails and his Quarterback fails. And this is exactly what happened in his case. And yet he was given a free pass when Coughlin was given a role he didn't need to have to begin with. 

Coughlin was never known for personnel decisions nor cap management. Sure, he had an eye for talent at certain positions. Mostly the WR position if we're being honest. And he will always be known as a great football coach despite anyone's views on his "toughness" on players. 

My problem is that people keep saying that 2017 was only three years ago. And that this collapse was unforeseen. And I disagree with that in it's entirety because if you really dissect and look deeper into that season they had it on easy street for the most part. And they still had to pull gimmicks out on Special Teams to barely scrounge up 10 wins to help the offense out. 

As far as Coughlin Vs. The Players and vise versa? There were typically grumblings out of that locker room every year before he arrived in 2017 regarding how players were being used or not used on defense. This carried on throughout 2016, 2017 & 2018. Ramsey always had a mouth and diva personality. Smith went off the deep end. It's not uncommon in the NFL but something is clearly not right with him. 

Fowler Jr. always had issues on and off the field. His maturity was a concern and there's a reason he's not here anymore. And that reason was beyond fair and within reason for him to be shipped off. What really hurt this team was poor management of the veterans they had signed and failing to replace their presence on the football field with adequate talent. 

You can't run off Malik Jackson and "hope" Taven Bryan is the guy. You can't run off guys like Teshaun Gipson and Brandon Church and "hope" Jerod Wilson and Ronnie Harrison are the guys. You can't see a guy like Paul Poszlusny retire and then "hope" a guy like Myles Jack with limited experience at ILB and also relatively young in his career step inside after playing outside and thrive as the general of the defense. 

None of these moves have panned out. But the primary catalyst is and forever will be Dave [BLEEP] Caldwell failing to get his job done to begin with and having forced Khan to make some type of move to improve the team. Simple and plain as that.

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