(03-07-2020, 04:50 PM)mikesez Wrote:

(03-07-2020, 04:37 PM)MalabarJag Wrote: And it was white men who captured the Africans and sold them into slavery? Any other fairy tales you want to support?

The Democrat Party may not have created slavery in America, but they were the party that defended it and then relegated black Americans to second class citizens after slavery was abolished.

Where do you get off on this first paragraph?
I didn't blame white people for anything.
But if the transaction is immoral, the buyer and the seller are both immoral. The John does not get to blame the pimp, nor does the pimp get to blame the John.

This little sub thread started because somebody connected racism to the founding of the Democratic Party. I have already shown that this is fallacious. now you're moving the goal posts and discussing other ways that Democrats kept black people down later in history. While your argument is at least factually accurate, it is not very persuasive for how we should vote today because it's dealing with stuff that was about 60 years old, 15 presidential election cycles, all of the politicians who followed that pattern are dead, and irrelevant.

Quote:I agree with much of what you say, but you have to admit, it all started with white people.  For example, the so-called "one drop" rule, where if you had one drop of black blood in you, you were black.  Half black and half white was considered black, as it is today, but that rule started with white people.

Liberals are just doing what conservatives did many years ago, and it's what people do all the time today, and that is, making up "rules" and "categories of people" when they think it's to their advantage to do so.  

It's reprehensible, but don't act like liberals invented this stuff.   A lot of it was the liberal reaction to racism and discrimination, when they invented affirmative action, which is a very bad policy in itself, but the idea didn't come from liberals.  That poison of identity politics originated with racists.